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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: snoot]
    #7601597 - 11/06/07 08:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yea I also remember seeing something like this, perhaps not this footage as I dont know how old this footage is. I remember NASA putting up the video and a bit later they figured out what it was


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: Seuss]
    #7602794 - 11/06/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

A bit from the spacecraft?

Yet it was seen on two seperate occasions, does this bit follow them around?

And the internal motion?

A bit of spacecraft doesn't cut it for me.

Do you accept that its as likely to be an undiscovered space entity as it is a bit of spacecraft???


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: Ego Death]
    #7603767 - 11/06/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

> Yet it was seen on two seperate occasions, does this bit follow them around?

Repeat after me: "An object in motion will move at a constant velocity, unless a resultant force acts on it."

> And the internal motion?

Optical illusion caused by the shimmer of light on the object.

From: http://www.spacestory.com/omni_part_1.htm
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OMNI: What inexplicable things have you seen out there?

Musgrave: You see satellites. I've seen Mir go by within 28 miles; other satellites and you don't know what they are, but maybe just space debris. All kinds of debris come off space ships, especially at the back end after the main engines shut down and you open the doors: ice chips, oxygen or hydrogen, stuff dumped from the engines. On two flights I've seen and photographed what I call "the snake," like a seven-foot eel swimming out there. It may be an uncritical rubber seal from the main engines. In zero g it's totally free to maneuver, and it has its own internal waves like it's swimming. All this debris is white, reflecting sunlight, or you don't see it. Cruising along with you at your velocity, it's still got its own rotation. At zero g, things have an incredible freedom. It's an extraordinary ballet.




Interesting... from what I can find, the "object" is actually frozen particles from the wing of the shuttle after launch that came off in a vortex (which is common). Internal dynamics are optical illusions caused by sunlight reflecting off the ice particles. The dance of the "object" is caused by turbulence in what little atmosphere there is that high. Basic shape is maintained by spin and lack of gravity due to altitude. Lack of visual reference makes "object" appear closer than it is. Also explains why "object" is lower and behind the shuttle with respect to earth and direction of travel. More or less it is a frozen vapor trail slowly interacting with the upper atmosphere as it falls out of orbit.

> Do you accept that its as likely to be an undiscovered space entity as it is a bit of spacecraft???

Based only on the video, yes. Based upon what an old friend that works with NASA (a literal rocket scientist) just told me, nope, not at all.


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: Ego Death]
    #7603800 - 11/06/07 05:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Ego Death said:

Do you accept that its as likely to be an undiscovered space entity as it is a bit of spacecraft???




Nope, sorry, Occam's razor brah.

Quote:

More or less it is a frozen vapor trail slowly interacting with the upper atmosphere as it falls out of orbit.




That is a pretty neat description of what they may be seeing. I wouldn't have thought that debris would behave like that in orbit but it sounds very reasonable.


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: MrKite1]
    #7604084 - 11/06/07 06:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Suess said what i was trying to think. Good job.


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: Ego Death]
    #7605573 - 11/07/07 03:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like an orbiting used rubber to me but then again no one ever accused me of having a grand vision.


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: Seuss]
    #7605648 - 11/07/07 05:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Excellent reply.

The only possible problems I found are that if its rubber, which it would need to be to move like that?  Then it should not shimmer.  You explain the shimmer as ice but yet frozen rubber doesn't usually have movement, it becomes brittle :crazy:

But I don't know either way so all possibilities are open.


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: Ego Death]
    #7608988 - 11/07/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I am tellin ya~ people.....    Worms..... 

Double-you, oh, are, emm, ess......    Worms.....  :crankey:


>^;;^<


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #7609312 - 11/07/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Four words:




End of story bitches.



BTW can we confirm Samuel Jackson was flying that day?


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: johnm214]
    #7610248 - 11/08/07 09:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'll take the case!

*starts checking itineraries*


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: nobhdy]
    #7612676 - 11/08/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'll try and contact his agent...


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: johnm214]
    #7614147 - 11/09/07 08:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:epileptic:


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: nobhdy]
    #7614754 - 11/09/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Dunno what it is but it doesn't look like a rubber hose or anything else inanimate as someone suggested. Its "wriggling" in zero G.

Either a fake or cosmic anomaly.


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #7616167 - 11/09/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

> Its "wriggling" in zero G.

Incorrect. Low earth orbit experiences microgravity, not zero gravity.


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Re: Nasa space eel [Re: Seuss]
    #7617689 - 11/10/07 06:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There are very few situations where you can use 'zero gravity'.


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