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First time....dried substrate?
    #7592098 - 11/03/07 06:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hello everyone! Thank you all for being here!

Yes...it's my first time trying to grow anything. I'll spare everyone the backstory for now, but I'll suffice to say I'm trying to cultivate a mushroom. I've followed the PF tek as close as I could with but with a couple exceptions. It says to keep jars off the bottom of the pressure cooker. I didn't. I couldn't find a quick or easy way. And I couldn't find vermiculite, only perlite. So I coarse ground the perlite, and let my jar sit on the bottom of the pressure cooker for an hour. Standard 1/4 brf, 1/4 water, 1/2 perlite mix.

I should explain, this is actually my 3'rd jar. The first 2 got horribly infected from not enought sanitation (10 min boiling water). It is also the last jar out of the one syringe I bought. I'd like to not buy more. Wife, who is interested, but never experienced, says I've spent enough on this. So please, let's focus on how I can save this, If it needs saving.

This jar has shown some signs of growing. If I knew how to attach a pic, I would. The short end of the story is that the areas around where I injected at are showing growth, the rest is not. This jar was made 10-26. This seems to be characteristic of a dry substrate, from what I've read.

Is there a safe way to "undry" the substrate? Should I just start fresh? If I can't salvage the jar, what would be a good way to keep the jar(s) off the bottom of the pan in the future? Or should I just wait longer? Please help!

Peace =)


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Re: First time....dried substrate? [Re: Zen Lunatic]
    #7592113 - 11/03/07 07:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

First off, you cannot substitute vermiculite for perlite.

Perlite is for humidification, perlite does not provide a good structure for myc growth, and does not hold enough water either.

perlite has a large surface area that allows to hold water and evoporate water into the air.

Vermiculite is like a sponge and holds 3x the amount of water and provides a nice structure for water to grow.

U could just wait it out, but its more than likely that your going to have to start over.#

You havnt followd the tek, it tells you to use verm for a reason, there was alos a recent post here on why you cannot substitute. You either use verm and brf or you use grains.

There is nothing you can do to save it. Its doubtfull that it will fully colinise, wait and see but i think its a lost cause.

To keep the jars of the bottom of the pot you can use a cloth, having the jars touching the bottom will burn your substrate.

Start over with the right ingredients


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Re: First time....dried substrate? [Re: Zen Lunatic]
    #15947960 - 03/14/12 07:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

WTF ARE YOU DOING???


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Re: First time....dried substrate? [Re: JohnnyZebra]
    #15948518 - 03/14/12 09:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

JohnnyZebra said:
WTF ARE YOU DOING???



This thread is over 4 years old. I doubt he'll respond.


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