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OfflineHunter
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Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID!
    #7591463 - 11/03/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I found them in a park with some taken care of lawn/manure in it. They look darkish at the top with a ring of either darker or lighter brown. Some of them look bluntly cone shaped. The stem is hallow in all of them if you look in. I was thinking Panaeolus subbalteatus, other known as subs, what do you think?

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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7591496 - 11/03/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

to me they look promising, im sure you will get better replies in no time though, the stem looks like it should too, at least according to what I have read. Hopefully they are pan subbs :smile:


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: andrewss]
    #7591504 - 11/03/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The funny thing is where i found them! It was a park that recently got closed for construction. And there was some woodchips laid long ago. The grass grew over them. There was so many to pick that i left there. I must have a whole grocery bag full!


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7591636 - 11/03/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

a lot of those look like subs you need to do a spore print though


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: DepressionSeeker]
    #7591721 - 11/03/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Those are Psathyrella. Not Panneaolus.


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: jet li]
    #7591730 - 11/03/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Are you sure? And are they psychedelic?


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7591732 - 11/03/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, I'm not sure. But if they are Psathyrella, they are not psychadelic.

You need to post a better description, including a spore print.


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: jet li]
    #7591751 - 11/03/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

psathyrella velutina


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7591760 - 11/03/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

=\

might as well spore print em...


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7591772 - 11/03/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Mitchnast said:
psathyrella velutina




I know for a FACT that it's not that. It doesn't even resemble it one bit. But looking at subs and back at mine look 1/1 alike. I also live in Pennsylvania. I am spore printing them now.


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7591812 - 11/03/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Alright i took some more pictures,












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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7591998 - 11/03/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

100% Psathyrella Velutina, or a variant thereof of Psyatharella. You may think in your head whatever you want to believe but those are definitely tinas'


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #7592046 - 11/03/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ouch i guess my luck went all the way down... but it's not hairy like Velutina are. Should i dispose of them?


Also the spore prints came out Purple to a dark blue or black.


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7592056 - 11/03/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i was thinking it was the unknown for me genus lacrymaria, or maybe the other option will be for me some sort of psathyrella ..velutina sound wonderful


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: cactu]
    #7592082 - 11/03/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

What do you mean wonderful mate?


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7592122 - 11/03/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

that it was a good  id , but i will go for the first option lacrymaria, ha ha.
not to  good at english , but i guees you get the idea:rolleyes:


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cuando una rafaga del pensamiento nos pasa  al lado se puede sentir  que valio  la pena  haber vivido, y cuando ese pensamiento se  convierte en sueño no paramos de soñar hasta realizarlo


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: cactu]
    #7592189 - 11/03/07 07:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah thanks.


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7592244 - 11/03/07 07:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I know these have already been ID'd, but if you're looking for pan subbs, you need to check out subbedhunter's guide.

Those are WAY too large to be typical pan subbs. (no comments from curecat, please... ya braggart! :smile: ) You're looking for something about the size of a quarter or smaller. I've only found one that was anywhere close the size of what you have there.


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: PinheadX]
    #7592293 - 11/03/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Do you have a lead on what they are?


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7592319 - 11/03/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

No, I just know what they aren't... they aren't subbs and they aren't psychoactive.


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: PinheadX]
    #7592325 - 11/03/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Alright thanks really! *Throws mushrooms out the window!*


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7592963 - 11/03/07 11:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

print them already!

Edit: sorry, I'm guilty of skimming over the thread. :shrug:


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7594237 - 11/04/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I DID, it came out as DARK PURPLE to a Blackish/Brown.


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7594263 - 11/04/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The spore print and pictures dont just suggest psathyrella, they scream it. the gills, caps, stems, all are off from what panaeolus subbalteatus looks like, heres a pic to compare to yours.



note the reddish stems, not white, like the psathyrella.
Subbs can be tricky!!! i can still mistake a foe once in a while in my patches these days..


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: PinheadX]
    #7594288 - 11/04/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Should i chuck em?


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7594305 - 11/04/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

absolutely. don't eat them.


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: PinheadX]
    #7594795 - 11/04/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the help guys. I just am still trying to decide what to order in between, Ecuador, or Golden Teacher, or Mazatapec or Tazmanian, i am mostly going for strongest open eye visuals. Which one should i choose?


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: PinheadX]
    #7595072 - 11/04/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Can someone tell me which too choose from the above?


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7595091 - 11/04/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

they are all the same.

all variable, all the same species, and probably 10 generations corrupted from their original isolation.


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7595220 - 11/04/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Meaning what? It doesn't matter which i grow? :syringe:


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: Hunter]
    #7595239 - 11/04/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yes.
wich makes you piss more
pepsi or coke :shrug:


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Re: Panaeolus subbalteatus? ID! [Re: notapillow]
    #7595260 - 11/04/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Alright Ecuador it is!


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