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    #7591347 - 11/03/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey folks, well Im having some serious issues with my recent projects. I have been growing for 8 months. I started with tenn stud hpoo but switched after the long wait times. I have not had a successful pan turn out in the past 2.5 months at least 10 pans. I reevaluated my temps, hpoo wetness but I still got contams and was have been unable to fully colonize the pans. The pans are about 2.5 deep and 12 inch long, covered with foil with 5-8 small holes for gas exchange. Im noticing that the middle wont colonize and there is water that is pooling at the bottom. I have been using a tit with a temp of 78-84 for colonizing, waiting 10-14 days to check. I now know that 80+ is to high sense the pans create their own heat inside. I dropped the temp down to 78 and am still having problems. I switched the hpoo that i was getting, the new stuff is aged for 6-8 months,no smell. I pasteurized it for 45 min at temps of 160-175 and squeezed out the water til only a few drops drip out. Does any one have any suggestions as to what is making my projects fail especially not fully colonizing? I started out just fine but cant seem to break this slump. I should mention that my quart jars colonize just fine using g2g, 10-14 days til the are fully colonized so at least I got that part down.


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Re: need some help [Re: mnmdat]
    #7591405 - 11/03/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

10 to 14 days before checking might be too little.. I'm assuming that during the colonization period you have them covered. C02 levels need to be higher than normal, but you can still have too much. Mycelium needs 02 also! Since Mycelium produces it's own heat during colonization, you will probably form condensation on all sides including from the top. The condensation will then drip from above, thus slowing up mycelial growth. My best guess is that your mycelium reproduces till the point that the O2 levels needed for growth are depleted, that is why it colonizes up to a certain point. I would introduce Fresh air at least once a week. Then twice a week when your getting closer to full colonization.


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Re: need some help [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7591483 - 11/03/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ok thanks for your input shroomery1, when introducing fresh 02 would I just open the tit and give it a quick fan or two? I would be worried about introducing contams while doing so.


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Re: need some help [Re: mnmdat]
    #7591582 - 11/03/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Fanning MAY introduce contams but its a necessity to cut back on the CO2 build up...I wouldnt worry about it though, unless you have experienced high levels of contams before...I fan my martha setup daily and have yet to have contam issues post casing...


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Re: need some help [Re: mnmdat]
    #7591606 - 11/03/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Ok thanks for your input shroomery1, when introducing fresh 02 would I just open the tit and give it a quick fan or two? I would be worried about introducing contams while doing so.




That would be perfect!  Don't worry about contams yet. When you achieve full colonization and put a casing layer you will start to provide Fresh Air Exchange at the very minimum 3 times a day.  The fact that the casing layer will be of a NON NUTRITIVE nature, (I assume), Contamination will not occur easily.  Your doing Good!:thumbup:


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Re: need some help [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7591641 - 11/03/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wow thanks guys I appreciate your help. I have never fanned the tit while the pans were colonizing,guess that was my problem. I really wish I would have posted this 2 months ago. I have been reading and testing and retesting to figure out my problem, guess I missed this part. Thank you so much for your help! I have about 20 quart jars that are about 50% so I will put this to use very soon.


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