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Asante
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Atheist or Theist? Choose!
#7590651 - 11/03/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some questions are pretty simple: Do you believe in a God/Divine Power (Theism) or do you believe there is none? (Atheism) ?
Narrow your opinion down to either of the two for the vote, and then afterwards lets debate it in all its complexities.
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: Asante]
#7590659 - 11/03/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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nope, i dont belive in god for a second, i belive in logic and math
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: Asante]
#7590665 - 11/03/07 10:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i don't believe in anything, but i think that either could be possible
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Adom
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: demiu5]
#7590671 - 11/03/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm wih you, I don't believe in anything at all and avoid this question and topic at all costs.... Besides clicking and venting on the shroomery.
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disturbed
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: demiu5]
#7590680 - 11/03/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I believe in god, it takes less faith for me to believe a divine entity created the universe than an accident. Do I care what limitations any relgion tries place on me? FUCK NO
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: Asante]
#7590682 - 11/03/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am agnostic. But really...I am God.
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: aDoS]
#7590694 - 11/03/07 11:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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wheres the i worship noise option
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: notapillow]
#7590702 - 11/03/07 11:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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according to the big bang theory the universe came to be from a point of infinite mass.
wtf
how did that shit explode? who lit the fuse?
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: pong]
#7590706 - 11/03/07 11:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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pong said: according to the big bang theory the universe came to be from a point of infinite mass.
wtf
how did that shit explode? who lit the fuse?
I did!
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: pong]
#7590708 - 11/03/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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pong said: according to the big bang theory the universe came to be from a point of infinite mass.
wtf
how did that shit explode? who lit the fuse?
fractals light there own fuses
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Adom
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: pong]
#7590849 - 11/03/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't really think when my heart stops it's all over, but other than that I don't really understand this type of question, it's too vast.
I don't have time to worry about such matters, they are much larger than I.
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: demiu5]
#7590856 - 11/03/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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demius said: i don't believe in anything, but i think that either could be possible
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: Adom]
#7591044 - 11/03/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Adom said: I don't really think when my heart stops it's all over, but other than that I don't really understand this type of question, it's too vast.
I don't have time to worry about such matters, they are much larger than I.
id say the question is pretty easy to comprehend since one is either an atheist or not
agnostics are not the same but very similar as both are nonreligious
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: Atheist]
#7591063 - 11/03/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, I believe I admitted it then. I believe there's more to the story than man knows so I believe in something more. I'm one of those believers, I guess.
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: Adom]
#7591068 - 11/03/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't believe in stuff I don't have evidence for. Asking anyone to do that is a fools errand.
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: shamantra]
#7591141 - 11/03/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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shamantra said: nope, i dont belive in god for a second, i belive in logic and math
is it really logical that the universe exists at all? Is always existing logical or is something from nothing logical?
Agnostic FTW! I don't know because I can't know.
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: Asante]
#7591162 - 11/03/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nothing about the world (in my observation) suggests the presence of an absolute power comprehensible to man.
No benevolence, no malevolence, just cause and effect on a level almost entirely outside of understanding, to the point where as far as we're concerned, it's chaos.
Edit: and forget agnositicism. If God exists, He is unknowable and therefore irrelevant.
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Edited by Kid_Orgo (11/03/07 01:43 PM)
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Isaac
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: pong]
#7591209 - 11/03/07 01:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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pong said: according to the big bang theory the universe came to be from a point of infinite mass.
wtf
how did that shit explode? who lit the fuse?
The big bang theory is retarded. Why don't all the planets spin in the the same direction? If a few kids hang on to a merry go round and it spins at really high speeds and they all fly off, they will all spin in the same direction.
If we allow the possibility the universe is infinite why can't we allow the possibility it's eternal as well? Scientists estimate the age of the universe to be between 10 - 20 billions of years old but space could also be in constant expansion meaning WHERE we measure the age of the earth could be a different age than its central location. If the universe is infinite than space is conceivably god/divine presence.
Either way I just can't see god being an intelligent one. Ask yourself if you were god would you make things the way they are?
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: Isaac]
#7591219 - 11/03/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Isaac said: The big bang theory is retarded. Why don't all the planets spin in the the same direction? If a few kids hang on to a merry go round and it spins at really high speeds and they all fly off, they will all spin in the same direction.
If two objects are spinning in the same direction and they hit each other the objects will slow down. If this keeps happenning the object will eventually be hit so many times that it stops spinning and reverses direction.
Try it on the breakfast table with oranges.
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Re: Atheist or Theist? Choose! [Re: Asante]
#7591233 - 11/03/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i cannot process this duality. i don't think black and white like that.
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