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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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OfflineVisionsToReality
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Who has watched Jesus Camp? FUCKED UP!
    #7590290 - 11/03/07 06:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Fuckin whackos! Total brainwashing of kids here are some clips but it's best to see the whole thing, I couldn't get too many good clips





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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
Put your vision to reality, yeah!


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Re: Who has watched Jesus Camp? FUCKED UP! [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7590309 - 11/03/07 07:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

thats the most retarded thing ive seen in a while, other than a bunch of people believing we have terrorist that want our "freedom" as if it is a tangible thing.

all religions are all the same. they have all the same bases but different names etc, people should be worshipping the sun because it rose today and brought life, not some named man with long hair.

it disgusts me when she thinks Bush is doing anything good in office. people need to open their eyes and figure out what gov. ties he has.

Zeitgeist the movie goes into full detail how religion is all the same, and the movie Endgame is a good watch to learn how the Bilderberg group is slowly unifying the world for global gov.


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Re: Who has watched Jesus Camp? FUCKED UP! [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7590319 - 11/03/07 07:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

oh yeah - I saw it.
I think it is remarkable how very much like witches these born again's are.
1) Group consciousness raising circles.(those meeting halls when they all pray on one outcome)

2)Simpathetic magic (smashing coffee cups to smash abortion)

3) Using a child's energy/will to assert change (showing those kids the fetuses' and telling them to pray to stop abortion)

It was amazing. the only difference I could see between witches and born again's is that the witches I know seem less crazy / less controlling. Their lifestyle and beliefs are more organic.( of course there are always extremes, but I mean onthe whole)

These born again's seem brainwashed, and totally convinced if they stray from jesus something bad is going to happen. Its as if they are constantly looking over their shoulder for the debbil. Has anyone ever heard of flagellation, when you wear girdles of spikes, and whip yourself because jesus was whipped, but it turns you on, in a sick sort of way. Thats the feeling I got from the people in Jesus Camp. A sick turn on with god.
OoD


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Re: Who has watched Jesus Camp? FUCKED UP! [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
    #7590321 - 11/03/07 07:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeaa....so about that Harry Potter thing....the bitch is obviously crazy. If a fictional character can give children hope and dreams, why destroy it?


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"The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." ---St. Augustine


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Re: Who has watched Jesus Camp? FUCKED UP! [Re: MycoThrill]
    #7590326 - 11/03/07 07:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Harry Potter is a threat to potential customers (kids) they just cant risk kids thinking for themselves, if they do, they will never be able to swallow the born again agenda.


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Re: Who has watched Jesus Camp? FUCKED UP! [Re: wocka]
    #7590338 - 11/03/07 07:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I get sick of people saying all religions are the same... and that they control you, et cet. There are several I'm aware of that have a core doctrine (i.e. bible) but the church itself advocates personal choice on issues like homosexuality, drugs, abortion, et cet.

Most of the people I've met in real life who proclaim all religions are the same usually have no clue what they're talking about.

For example, take a look at some information from the mennonite church (USA)

abortion: http://www.mennoniteusa.org/NewItems/delegates/cong_res_abortion.pdf

War, (iraq in particular)
This is our faith:
15 We believe that peace is the will of God. God created the world in peace, and God’s peace is most fully
16 revealed in Jesus Christ, who is our peace and the peace of the whole world. Led by the Holy Spirit, we
17 follow Christ in the way of peace, doing justice, bringing reconciliation, and practicing nonresistance, even
18 in the face of violence and warfare. (Article 22, Confession of Faith in a Mennonite Perspective, 1995)
http://www.mennoniteusa.org/NewItems/delegates/IraqstatementCharlotte0705.pdf


Sepperation of Church and State
"Early leaders rejected the grip of church-state control over individuals' lives. Their ideas and insistence on separation between church and state are equally important today in an era of terrorism and a governmental response that tends to suppress the rights of individuals and nonconformist communities."
http://www.thirdway.com/menno/?Topic=23|Basic+Beliefs




But yeah, that movie is interesting... pure kiddie brainwashing, but whatever... Those were the kids in my highschool that got vd, smoked pot at 14, et cet. It seems like the ultra conservative parents' kids either turn out like them or completely opposite (suprisingly often).


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Re: Who has watched Jesus Camp? FUCKED UP! [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7590404 - 11/03/07 08:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

girlfriend made me watch it, because she's on a quest to find the world's most depressing documentary.

fucked up movie, but not as bad as kids starving in Sudan.


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"America touts itself as the land of the free, but the number one freedom that you and I have is the freedom to enter into a subservient role in the workplace. Once you exercise this freedom you've lost all control over what you do, what is produced, and how it is produced. And in the end, the product doesn't belong to you. The only way you can avoid bosses and jobs is if you don't care about making a living. Which leads to the second freedom: the freedom to starve."

- Tom Morello


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Re: Who has watched Jesus Camp? FUCKED UP! [Re: wps]
    #7590572 - 11/03/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

if someone wants to hand a kid a bible so he can read it himself and come to his own conclusions, thats fine. i have nothing against people spreading their beliefs. However, i am very against any organized religion that teaches personal interpretations of it.


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Re: Who has watched Jesus Camp? FUCKED UP! [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7590670 - 11/03/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

rofl, a higher power then me? I think NOT :lol:

I am kind of like god, but a lot better.


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"If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution - then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise." - Aldous Huxley
:drooling:GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH:drooling:


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