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OfflineShroomSkin
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Commie bastards!
    #759008 - 07/19/02 12:50 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

This isn't meant as a debate, I was just wonderin which side politically yall were on. Me, I'm a mixture of both left and right really, but leaning a tad more to the right. I repeat, no debating please! It'll just end up with everyone at eachothers throats.

Cheers!
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Re: Commie bastards! [Re: ShroomSkin]
    #770587 - 07/23/02 02:19 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Some of my beliefs could be categorized as extreme Left-Wing. Some of my other beliefs could be categorized as extreme Right-Wing. I don't fit into any ideological belief system. My beliefs are based upon my own thoughts and experiences, not someone elses. Fuck ideologies.


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Re: Commie bastards! [Re: ShroomSkin]
    #770644 - 07/23/02 02:46 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I believe that liberty is the highest political ideal, anything else would involve using the state to initiate force against your fellow human beings in order to achieve your political goals.

To paraphrase Bastiat, the moral test of any law is whether it enables the state to perform an act which would be a crime for a private citizen. Examples:
- If you have no right to rob your neighbor, you have no right to ask the state to tax him for your purposes.
- If you have no right to enslave another, you have no right to ask the state to institute the draft.


Edited by Anonymous (07/23/02 02:47 PM)


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Re: Commie bastards! [Re: ShroomSkin]
    #770694 - 07/23/02 03:10 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I'm a Libertarian. My philosophical base stands on our right to individual rights of the one, not the will of the many.


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Re: Commie bastards! [Re: ShroomSkin]
    #775017 - 07/25/02 06:25 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I believe in personal freedoms, the right for one to do whatever they like as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

I also believe that citizens should be taxed to fund health care, education, and various other programs, which should be available for free. I think everyone should have the right to equally good health care and education, no matter what their financial situation is to start out with.


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Re: Commie bastards! [Re: Phluck]
    #775500 - 07/25/02 10:30 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Phluck writes:

I believe in personal freedoms, the right for one to do whatever they like as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

I do, too.

I also believe that citizens should be taxed to fund health care, education, and various other programs, which should be available for free.

Ah. So people have the right to do whatever they like EXCEPT to keep their hard-earned money.

I think everyone should have the right to equally good health care and education, no matter what their financial situation is to start out with.

Why stop there? Why not increase taxes to the point where they'll provide free housing (and free energy to heat the housing), free food, free shoes and clothing for everyone? Clearly food and protection from the elements are even MORE fundamentally necessary to life than education or health care -- no one can argue that.

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Re: Commie bastards! [Re: Phluck]
    #775716 - 07/25/02 12:09 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

In reply to:

I also believe that citizens should be taxed to fund health care, education, and various other programs, which should be available for free. I think everyone should have the right to equally good health care and education, no matter what their financial situation is to start out with.




I believe you've been smoking too much crack.
what is my incentive to work hard and try to better my lot in life if I know some feel good liberals are going to come along and latch on to as much of my hard earned cash as they can to buy votes by pretending to help those who don't want to work as hard to get ahead?

If you want to give more of your money, feel free. Don't try to spend mine at the same time.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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