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TRAGEDYNUMBERONE
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I THINK THERES CONTAMNATION....help...
#7589891 - 11/02/07 11:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hm... well this is my first time ever growing mushrooms.... or anything for that matter.... Exactly today 3 weeks ago I inoculated the jars... everything seemed to have been pretty sterile... used all of the necessary precautions and then some more... and today I looked at the jars (hadn't looked at them in about 4 days) and most of them are almost fully colonized... however...one turned black in one corner so that one i am SURE is no good... but then all of the others but 1 jar have some yellowish/brownish spots.... they're all full of condensation also and I dont know if its the water touching the mycelium growth or what.... I dont have any pix as of yet since I havent had a chance to take any...but is this normal? I mean would I have to consider that 99% of my first attempt has failed? If so... does anyone think going forward with the seemingly healthy jar would be ok... I mean they were all inoculated in the same place, at the same time...etc.... please help.. I would like to know if its safe to keep growing these jars or if I should just start all over again.....
btw... the strain is the Huautla strain
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BUDDHA_702
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It's hard to tell anything without a pic, but...
the black jar is deferentially contaminated, with black mold don't open it just throw it away.
The yellowish/brownish spots are probably MYC piss(metabolites)
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Mankey


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edit*Damn.... my bad on being a douche bag. I was in a shitty mood.
Edited by Mankey (11/03/07 10:23 AM)
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veda_sticks
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Re: I THINK THERES CONTAMNATION....help... [Re: Mankey]
#7590337 - 11/03/07 07:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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If u really want to re use the jars that have contamed, you will need to pressure cook them for an hour to kill whats in side, then very carfefully dump the contents in a plastic bag, seel thebag and throw it out. Then was your jar.
Which method are u using, pf tek or grains. Keep an eye on the back spot, it could possibly be a peice of verm (if your are using the pf Tek) that has moved. Happen to me a times a peice of verm has moved a bit, and thought there was contam.
As for the condensatin/yellow brown spots, sounds like metobolites, they should be fine, but a picture would be really good for people to look at and confirm.
I dont see how all the jars should be dumped and started over, the 1 that has, he is not talking about shaking them every 4 days, he mentions nothing of shaking, merly that he hadnt look at them for 4 days.
Get some pics for us to have a look, the black doesnt sound good but the others may be fine. pics...
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Re: I THINK THERES CONTAMNATION....help... [Re: Mankey]
#7590448 - 11/03/07 09:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mankey said: 1.You must have been shaking your jars waaaaaay too much if you're talking about not shaking them for 4 days and that being a bad thing. 2.The yellowish brown is normal. 3.Condensation is normal. 4.UTSFE! 5.To answer your question, NO, don't keep growing in those jars. Toss them out and start over clean. 6.
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WTF? I don't see anything about shaking. In addition, there is no reason he can't keep growing the non-contaminated jars.
Toss out the one with a black spot. Yellowish liquid 'staining' is metabolites, which are harmeless. If the yellow/brown is a dry powder, then it's likely contaminant spores from mold. If it's a stain, then it's metabolites. Good luck. RR
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Caribou_Lou
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Re: I THINK THERES CONTAMNATION....help... [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7590584 - 11/03/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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When they're ready to birth I think you just rinse them off with water and then dry it with a paper towel and birth them as usual.
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TRAGEDYNUMBERONE
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Re: I THINK THERES CONTAMNATION....help... [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#7592533 - 11/03/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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[image] [/image]Im sorry I didnt get a pic up before.... and yes... I did try to look for the answer before I posted... given that I didnt find it and wasn't sure of what was going on... I thought I'd ask... Im sorry if my question sounds dumb but after all I read Im concerned about any form of contamination and since Ive never grown anything before im not sure what it looks like... btw Im a she not a he....
About the jars... Im not trying to re-use the old jars.. I will throw them away after Im done... I just wanted to know if it was ok to keep growing what had already started or just buy brand new jars with brand new stuff and start all over again.... I am using pf tek method....
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veda_sticks
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Think thats just metobolites.
When its ready, rinse under the tap then dunk in clean water for 24 hours, roll in verm, into FC
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dovab
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Re: I THINK THERES CONTAMNATION....help... [Re: veda_sticks]
#7593490 - 11/04/07 04:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks pretty good to be honest.
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