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Can you judge the looks of this horse poo?
    #7588515 - 11/02/07 06:22 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Based on an uneducated guess (never examined horse poo although have seen it fresh on the ground)....this looks pretty decomposed.

There were worms in it, so it was definitely on its way of bein decomposed...

The guy said it was the older stuff..

So some coffee grounds were added for some nitrogen just incase..but I mean it looks ok...


This may just go in 2 monotubs and then next time fresher poopies will be gotten so whatever. This looks good enough though, even though its pretty decomposed....yeah?



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It seems to be pretty cohesive when at field capacity...so when putting in the monotub...it should be crumbled and NOT packed down, I'm guessing.


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Re: Can you judge the looks of this horse poo? [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7588519 - 11/02/07 06:24 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

It looks fine, although, before using, I would most definitely mix it by 50 percent with straw, cut into 1" cuttings, OR, 25% straw, 25% coir.
You don't want to use JUST manure, it will be like thick mud, and not let myc rip thru it.


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Re: Can you judge the looks of this horse poo? [Re: jeetered]
    #7588524 - 11/02/07 06:25 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, ok. I thought people used 100% manure w/o problems. Wow. Thank you, that helps.


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Re: Can you judge the looks of this horse poo? [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7588563 - 11/02/07 06:38 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

100% horse manure is great. Cow manure is what needs to be cut or turn to mud. I sometimes cut horse manure with a bit of verm as a moisture reservoir, but it's not necessary. Of course, complex substrates tend to work better, so if you have coffee grinds, coir, worm castings, compost, etc., it's all good to mix in. Don't forget the gypsum.
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Re: Can you judge the looks of this horse poo? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7588572 - 11/02/07 06:41 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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100% horse manure is great. Cow manure is what needs to be cut or turn to mud. I sometimes cut horse manure with a bit of verm as a moisture reservoir, but it's not necessary. Of course, complex substrates tend to work better, so if you have coffee grinds, coir, worm castings, compost, etc., it's all good to mix in. Don't forget the gypsum.
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hahah good call RR, dont have a clue why i thought that was plain cow manure.


Either way, i would never use just plain horse manure w/o the straw or coir.

and with or without gypsum i've had the same success rate, no better or worse with or without it. I don't understand why people do or don't add it, it seems to me it makes absolutely no difference.


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Re: Can you judge the looks of this horse poo? [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7588579 - 11/02/07 06:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'd have to see a picture of the horse that came from...

to give you an answer!~

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Re: Can you judge the looks of this horse poo? [Re: jeetered]
    #7588597 - 11/02/07 06:48 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Commercial growers who produce billions of dollars worth of mushrooms yearly would beg to disagree with you. Gypsum provides a ten to twenty percent increase in yields, provided you've otherwise made an efficient substrate. Furthermore, gypsum protects against pH swings as the mycelium colonizes the substrate. Calcium and sulfur are both required for mushroom formation. Many common substrate materials that growers use are deficient in these elements, thus the addition of gypsum.

I know of no commercial mushroom farms that don't use gypsum in substrates.
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Re: Can you judge the looks of this horse poo? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7588614 - 11/02/07 06:53 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Commercial growers who produce billions of dollars worth of mushrooms yearly would beg to disagree with you. Gypsum provides a ten to twenty percent increase in yields, provided you've otherwise made an efficient substrate. Furthermore, gypsum protects against pH swings as the mycelium colonizes the substrate. Calcium and sulfur are both required for mushroom formation. Many common substrate materials that growers use are deficient in these elements, thus the addition of gypsum.

I know of no commercial mushroom farms that don't use gypsum in substrates.
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hmm, well, im not a commercial mushroom farm, but I do bulk, and i've never used it, and have never had an issue with low yields. Maybe I should add some again and see, either way, it hasn't helped, or hindered me.


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Re: Can you judge the looks of this horse poo? [Re: jeetered]
    #7589578 - 11/02/07 11:42 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

K well added coir (maybe at 40% almost) and it definitely fluffed it up. it was pretty decomposed so it was seeming like it was on the muddy side. next time it wont be so decomposed hopefully. and gypsum next time too...damn!


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