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OfflineABF
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A safe Mushroom?
    #7588382 - 11/02/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

After reading a lot of studies about HPPD and mushrooms, i have come to the conclusion that use of mushrooms can cause HPPD, depression and anxiety.

I have take mushrooms twice, and I had great experiences, and i want to explore them more for a spiritual experience, but this inofrmation is somewhat disturbing.

Is there a species that is most likely not to cause HPPD

is their an amount limit that may prevent or severely reduce chances of getting HPPD.

has anyone here experienced HPPD solely because of mushrooms I.E. you don't do any other psychedelics drugs, and you got HPPD from shrooms.

I read the disclaimer thing, and it made me worry alot, I want to explore shrooms w.o going crazy

am i over reacting? or is their reason to be cautious with shrooms?

I don't do ACID/LSD for numerous personnel reasons, by sticking to shrooms every once in a while will I reduce my RISK?


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: ABF]
    #7588397 - 11/02/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yes u are overeacting x100... do u believe everything u read?


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: ABF]
    #7588402 - 11/02/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

All psylocibe mushrooms contain the same actives so, no there isnt a particular shroom that is ore likely to cause this.


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7588408 - 11/02/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ya you are going abut this endevor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern.
buy the ticket
take the ride
and all that....


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: ABF]
    #7588441 - 11/02/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Most people that actually do have HPPD enjoy it anyways. Free visuals once in a while is just a bonus. :smile:


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: notapillow]
    #7588445 - 11/02/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

People have been eating mushrooms safely for thousands of years; these so called studies that discuss some dramatic long term problems associated with mushroom use usually have some hidden agenda to spread disinformation, usually geared towards an unexperienced user to discourage them from ever figuring out how the world really works.

Just my opinion...


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: notapillow]
    #7588450 - 11/02/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

What about the people on HPPDonline that have take shrooms only 5 or 6 times and acid once or twice and got HPPD?

I don't want to be someone like that, and if 5 trips on shrooms can give you HPPD, i dont ever want to do them, but it seems most HPPD victims are also acid users, leading me to a conclusion that Mushrooms by themselves cant cause HPPD. IS their any case of someone taking shrooms a few times and suffering greatly for it?


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: ColdCash]
    #7588456 - 11/02/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ABF, "can" is correct, mushrooms can cause depression and anxiety, but highly unlikely.

Birthday parties can lead to depression and anxiety too you know?

Besides, even if mushrooms did leave a user depressed and anxious, it would be completely curable.

Can you point to these studies? I pray the websites don't end in .gov


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: mushroomplume]
    #7589683 - 11/02/07 10:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i have HPPD, and i feel as if it's a blessing. I'm an artist by nature, and it is always so inspiring to see colourful patterns and shapes on surfaces. when wood grains start to flow it aint to bad either. And when you're sitting in a university class that has become boring, and the room fills with all sorts of psychedelia, it's a good way to pass the time hah. besides. its not all that distracting, maybe just because im used to it, but it can be easy to ignore anyway. no worries man.


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: bbaeker]
    #7589922 - 11/03/07 12:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

A tiny percentage of users develop HPPD and a large percentage of that small percentage are either not bothered by or enjoy their HPPD. Theres really very little reason to be so worried. If psychedelics were likely to lead to horrible consequences, they would have a much smaller following.


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: Ness1]
    #7590110 - 11/03/07 02:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Who gives a shit, just take them and have fun.:mushroom2:


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: Flugon_Nine]
    #7590210 - 11/03/07 05:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

what i would give...


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: Kanker]
    #7590573 - 11/03/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Whenever I do a trippy drug I usually have tracers for couple weeks after that I only really notice after smoking pot (seems to exaggerate them). I try to wait for them to go away completely before my next trip and I have noticed them from LSD shrooms DOI etc.. This is not really HPPD and from my experience you need to abuse to drugs often for there to be any long lasting visual impairment. If you don't trip often then I think there will be little to no risk of HPPD. I could be wrong....


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: jellyfish]
    #7590580 - 11/03/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Anything is possible in this life man...

If you go into a trip only thinking about negative things that can happen, guess what, your trip will probably reflect upon those thoughts.


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: c0_hush]
    #7590600 - 11/03/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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c0_hush said:
People have been eating mushrooms safely for thousands of years; these so called studies that discuss some dramatic long term problems associated with mushroom use usually have some hidden agenda to spread disinformation, usually geared towards an unexperienced user to discourage them from ever figuring out how the world really works.

Just my opinion...





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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: ABF]
    #7590681 - 11/03/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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ABF said:
What about the people on HPPDonline that have take shrooms only 5 or 6 times and acid once or twice and got HPPD?

I don't want to be someone like that, and if 5 trips on shrooms can give you HPPD, i dont ever want to do them, but it seems most HPPD victims are also acid users, leading me to a conclusion that Mushrooms by themselves cant cause HPPD. IS their any case of someone taking shrooms a few times and suffering greatly for it?



like i sayed.
your either on the bus
or you off



your conclusions are tremendously misinformed and nerodic.

i have hppd. do i car, no, does it bother me, hell no.

your mind cannot "unsee"
it dont work that way


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: notapillow]
    #7590939 - 11/03/07 12:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

HPPD is spun in a hugely negative light for no reason. ZOMG TAKE ACID ONCE AND YOU COULD HALLUCINATE FOREVER!!!! .... No, it's not like that at all. HPPD is not seeing shit that isn't there for the rest of forever, it's small things. Walls might breathe or you might get trails. So what? Only a minuscule number of people with HPPD are negatively effected by it, so why worry? When you took aspirin for the first time, there was a chance you'd be severely allergic to it and die. Did you worry about it? No. Why? Because it almost never happens.


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: Ness1]
    #7591295 - 11/03/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

HPPD is such a minor effect on vision that it's hardly even worth spending much time talking about it, let alone worrying about, or speaking of it in terms of "victim" and "suffering" I developed HPPD after only my first few times doing mushrooms. Long before i had ever used LSD and certainbly not in any context of abuse. The mushroom simply stuck with me. and its not like its something intense 24/7, the effects are miniscule and seem to show up for only brief periods of time and in no way interfere with regular activity. it's almost a joke to be even a little concerned about it. its not even an "impairment" and like it has been said already, you dont hallucinate or trip out or anything, the walls breath a little, wood grains might sloooowly flow, and you might see some minor colouring of otherwise plain surfaces.


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: bbaeker]
    #7591688 - 11/03/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So I will be completely normal, functioning member of society even if I do develop HPPD? I mean, I'd rather not be doing something serious when I start to see weird colors or something. How rare is HPPD?


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: fsdoubleflip]
    #7591734 - 11/03/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, you will be a completely normal, functioning member even with HPPD. I have a friend with HPPD. The walls breathe all the time for him. It doesn't bother him one little bit.


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: Ness1]
    #7591972 - 11/03/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

and even if you are doing something incredibly serious, HPPD would in no way get in the way. You probably wouldnt even notice it because truely serious circumstances have their own way of becoming the forefront of anything else thats going on. Even if a person is flying on mushrooms or something and something really serious happens, that person plummets almost to base level in order to deal with the seriousness, at least thats how it is with myself and everyone else i know that does these things.


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: ABF]
    #7592047 - 11/03/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Is there a species that is most likely not to cause HPPD






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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: Robo]
    #7592072 - 11/03/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Is there a species that is most likely not to cause HPPD




   





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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: Rekkuzo]
    #7592879 - 11/03/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

HPPD is sweet! Have you ever noticed how much classroom carpets, the inside of your eyelids, and white ceilings have to offer? It's your creative subconscious sprayed onto the walls when you least expect it, but non-intrusively. As an artist, it is a blessing! Does it get in the way of normal activity? Hell no! HPPD is your mind saying "we should do this more often". Embrace it. The people who it affects negatively were too goddamn afraid of the mild hallucination in the first place. However, these are just the erratic ramblings of someone with mild HPPD.


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: aaei67]
    #7594020 - 11/04/07 10:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

amen


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: Ness1]
    #7594067 - 11/04/07 10:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have a lot of residual tracers from doing PEA's like 2c-t-2, 2c-i, 2c-b, etc. They very rarely bother me, its just something I've learned to live with.

I was doing these things A LOT. I've also tripped mushrooms A LOT. But I'm convinced it was the PEA's that caused the residual tracers/visuals. In my book mushies are pretty safe - short-term and long-term.


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: etam]
    #7594076 - 11/04/07 10:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yah I have colors of light fly by me all the time, it has been this way since I started taking phen's


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Re: A safe Mushroom? [Re: ABF]
    #19026939 - 10/24/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

[image][url=http://files.shroomery.org/files/13-43/265725862[/image]So im new to this site and i just picked up my first batch of shrooms and wanted to know if they look safe


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