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Anonymous #1

Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay?
    #7588275 - 11/02/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hi,

I was a virgin.

I'm not anymore.

I don't really feel anything in my penis because of circumcision.

I can get myself off pretty well on masturbation, but when my girlfriend touches me I don't feel ANYTHING at all.

I try to tell her how to touch me but it just doesn't turn me on at all.

Sex with her the first time, with a condom, gave me enough sensation that I did get aroused and get off more or less, but the next time I didn't feel ANYTHING I felt absolutely no sensations

I want to have it without a condom a lot a lot but we have to wait a week until her patch starts working.

Touch used to be sacred to me.

When she first held my hand it made me cry inside. But she doesn't know what sacred touch means, and is clumsy and mechanical and over-masculine not understanding the delicate meditative spiritual intimacy that can turn touch into something wonderous.

I gave her a 'hand-job' and it wasn't anything special for me to do to her. It got her off though but it was just like.... hmmmmm...

and she asks me, am I gay?

I try to tell her, look it's like banging my arm into a wall I don't feel anything. Or look it's the same as touching my arm. I don't feel anything.

My penis doesn't feel any-thing. How can it? Circumcision + a condom? I hate circumcision I find it vile and disgusting but no doubt this makes my mind tell my penis to have less sensation than it should.

I want serious answers there are ten thousand stupid fucks here on shroomery, god bless you all the same, that are operating in the lower chakras and view sex as a commodity and women as something to conquer.

My veil broke long ago and I saw through the whore of britney spears-a-tron iterating constant slut gurgitations from the media and taking my eyes away so that every girl I saw would be sized up as a hot piece to conquer

now i CANNOT ever see women that way because i see that which they really are, weird conglomerations of body parts that are entirely goofy and absurd, boobs look really goofy and absurd to me and the uman being in general from the vantage of half-way between here and the astral planes where I always reside just seems really absurd

i want to have tantra

i can take her soul over but she is afraid of such deep intimacy............. i want to fuck

its an addiction a craving screaming at me and killing me

i want to either have good sex or become celibate.... i want to do tantra

i'm not gay but i always dream of people touching my ass, or things being in my ass, and it feels soooo good

but touching my ass, stimulating it with my finger, it doesn't feel good and i don't think having a guy have sex with me would feel good

if you ask me, which are more attractive, women

they are beautiful though i just don't really look at them and get a hard on i look at some fucking bimbo whore slut showing her junk off and am like fuck you you're an idiot, a whore, and never bound for liberation from samsara stupid stupid sad ignorant girl, the whore, the media system, it raped your mind and made you a prostitute

i just laugh inside

see a porn magazine, i wouldn't look into them but i see a cover of a maxim or something and i'm like
hah
wtf

do people find this hot?

if i steal someone else's eyes, like my friend, and look at one of his magazines i see lust but its because he has put lust energy into it

i don't really have lust

i want to have sex

i want my foreskin back it hurt me so bad for so many years to come to learn that my most sensitive body parts were chopped off as i was crying in morbid pain with a sadistic fuck with a scalpel doing this in the name of what
hygiene ? fucking bullshit more like repressed judeo-christian tyrannical tomfoolery fucking cunts they are wanting men to not masturbate

that's why

hygiene my ass we are AMERICANS IN THE 20TH CENTURY WE CAN CLEAN OUR DICKS ON OUR OWN?

don't

fuck you if you want to this is not what i'm asking for, debate circumcision, if you are interested i'll share info on it but i just really need help

turns out the frenulum is more sensitive than anything, we loose, literally, over 50% of our nerve endings

and whether its psychological, or physical, or both

my dick doesn't feel a lot at all, ever

she can touch it all she wants and it isn't good but

i don't understand why when we made out and she first touch it i was like holy shit and i started laughing like someone tickled me a million times and omfg it was intense but instead of keep going she didn't understand my cues and stopped and was like 'what' then it didn't feel good any-more

it has to be right

i have to take over her mind and take her out of her ego she doesn't really touch the borderlines of the inner realms like i do

and its like i

need to be touched a certain way

i see her naked and i don't find her ugly i think she is aesthetically beautiful but i don't find her hot

and she says to me most guys would go crazy just to touch her boob

and i'm like WHAT KIND OF FUCKING LOSER WOULD YOU BE IF YOU WERE ONE OF THOSE GUYS

and it makes me a little angry inside because fuck, do you know such fucking low-lifes that all they are is a dick? literally?

fuck the human race you know

its easy to get boners i get them even when she just hugs me, which i don't really like

only thing i can think is to not jerk off at all for a while, maybe until we can do it without a condom

when i touch her, i feel ... roughness? or some bumps? or something? i'm not sure what it is, she said that she had to get tested to get on her birth control and that before that she hasn't had sex in two years and that she's clean

i don't want to be paranoid but she isn't a virgin and i am
or was
what the hell is virginity i feel no different now than i did then but... anyway

i mean i have bumps on me even and if i have an std it would be from the most weird insane logic ever like toilet seat transmission or just

really unlikely stuff so maybe girls bodies just have bumpy areas

i mean

i dunno

i want to fuck but its like a false god its like the devil tricking you through the media system to worship a false goddess that is never satisfying the way they say it is

i have to stay in higher chakra awareness and this only leaves tantra as the right option you know

it is so much not what i thought it would be

she took my lack of touch, so sacred, and made it blasphemous and useless

95% of it is NOT being able to TOUCH, forbidden fruit you know, so you go crazy like

i want to touch so much

but when everything is allowed you have to find the vulnerable head-space where this girl becomes a stranger again and you see her as the goddess archetype and its tricky because though she is interested in spirituality she does a lot of fucking dumb things

like listening to music and such when most music lowers the population and makes them stupider and i dunno

anyway

it's like

challenging


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Anonymous #2

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7588306 - 11/02/07 03:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, just jack hammer it like that one dude did to that other dudes wife.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7588322 - 11/02/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

fuck her asshole


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Anonymous #4

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #7588372 - 11/02/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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fuck her asshole




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Anonymous #3

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7588389 - 11/02/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #4

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #7588407 - 11/02/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #5

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7588424 - 11/02/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #6

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7588493 - 11/02/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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and she says to me most guys would go crazy just to touch her boob

and i'm like WHAT KIND OF FUCKING LOSER WOULD YOU BE IF YOU WERE ONE OF THOSE GUYS

and it makes me a little angry inside because fuck, do you know such fucking low-lifes that all they are is a dick? literally?




They aren't losers. They're normal.

From reading this post, you are not normal in terms of human sexuality.

And circumcision should not completely numb your dick. They must have botched
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now i CANNOT ever see women that way because i see that which they really are, weird conglomerations of body parts that are entirely goofy and absurd, boobs look really goofy and absurd to me and the uman being in general from the vantage of half-way between here and the astral planes where I always reside just seems really absurd




That is a very strange perception of women. Most guys are hardwired to view the female body as beautiful and more physically attractive than ANYTHING... so much so that it drives men crazy. I'm not sure why this makes you uncomfortable.

Were you abused by any chance? This forum is anonymous.

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but when everything is allowed you have to find the vulnerable head-space where this girl becomes a stranger again and you see her as the goddess archetype and its tricky because though she is interested in spirituality she does a lot of fucking dumb things

like listening to music and such when most music lowers the population and makes them stupider and i dunno




Okay you're just a nutjob


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Anonymous #7

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #7588498 - 11/02/07 04:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #6

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #7588507 - 11/02/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Dude, just jack hammer it like that one dude did to that other dudes wife.




roffle


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Anonymous #7

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7588514 - 11/02/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm circumsized, I've had tons and tons of great sex. Your problem is mental. Stop thinking about it so much and just enjoy yourself. Quit trying to get her to jerk you off, because women suck at that shit.

When I was a teenager, I used to get going without a condom, than after we started getting into it pretty good, I'd slip the condom on and go to town.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #7588526 - 11/02/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i dont really agree with your opinion on music
but the way you descirbe women :

"now i CANNOT ever see women that way because i see that which they really are, weird conglomerations of body parts that are entirely goofy and absurd, boobs look really goofy and absurd to me and the uman being in general from the vantage of half-way between here and the astral planes where I always reside just seems really absurd"

I totally understand that, i see people like that half the time. I'll just be looking at people walk by or while having a conversation and suddenly i'll start to see them as intricate combinations of flesh, bone and muscle. Its so wierd. I also tend to fetishize every part of the body. Western culture fetishizes the pussy, tits and ass. but I find so much beauty in almost every single part of the body, every bone and curve.

I really feel what youre saying man, and apart from the spiritual, astral plane stuff, I think were on the same wavelength.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #7588644 - 11/02/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #7

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #7588690 - 11/02/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I like womens curves in particular. And if this cat thinks that women look ugly and physically unappealing, then he's gay. end of the story.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7589352 - 11/02/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think your issue is psychological. I think you could greatly enjoy sex if you could get in the right mindset.

Maybe you are too rational?


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Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7589368 - 11/02/07 08:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #11

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7589610 - 11/02/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I understand some of what you're talking about, like how sex can feel so good that it almost feels "sinful", whether or not you are religious. But you really could be helped by calming down a bit. Try talking to a shrink, or someone who is qualified to help you with your problems.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7589627 - 11/02/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Google "Shemale" = ?


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Anonymous #13

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7589646 - 11/02/07 10:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's time for you to start fucking boys assholes.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #7590112 - 11/03/07 02:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

OP isn't gay, he's just FUCKING INSANE.  Stop talking about all that astral plane, chakra, tantra bullshit.  That's grade-A douchery.
I'm cut, and I'm fine just fine.  Shit nigga I've got callouses on my dick from over-eager teenage masturbation, and I'm STILL fine.
and the first time I poked a vargina, rather than feeling nothing, I was fucking frozen in place briefly by the overflow of pure :awesome:
and the next time, too..  and just about every time since.


It's all in your head.  Stop being a flaky douche, stop thinking it's so important, start fucking guys YOU GIANT FAG!


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Anonymous #15

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #7590219 - 11/03/07 05:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

lol yeah

even straight girls think hot girls are hot. now if a man cannot see beauty in a woman then... either you are gay, or asexual completely.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #7590594 - 11/03/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

thats a possibility,
some people show little or no interest in sex
and others only show arousal for idealized versions of it in their mind and not the dirty, imperfect real thing

but seriously i hate when people lord themselves over others, its the same thing whether youre talking about astral planes and higher levels of consciousness or a god who will send you to heaven and others to hell

both beliefs are in no way falsifiable or rational


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Anonymous #16

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7592930 - 11/03/07 10:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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When she first held my hand it made me cry inside.




That's your problem right there...you're obviously a homosexual.


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Anonymous #17

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #7593414 - 11/04/07 03:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

find the torrent for mantak chia's cultivating male sexual energy

using his methods, during your sessions your pleasure will constantly rise

also, it's not your girlfriends job to arouse you - your sexual energy is entirely your department. do with it what you want


drop the superior attitude, we're all equals (that includes people you might consider mindless robots brainwashed by society)


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Anonymous #18

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #7593441 - 11/04/07 03:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm frying hella hard and I just read this, thanks for taking a shit in my brain. :smile:


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Anonymous #2

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #7593460 - 11/04/07 03:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:


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Anonymous #19

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7595264 - 11/04/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #19

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #7595266 - 11/04/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #20

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #7596548 - 11/04/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Do you find men attractive? If not, your not gay.
Maybe your just a-sexual(as in, not really interested in having sex with either women or men). Or maybe the doctor/priest/moyle/whoever that circumsized you really did a botch job. Your also thinking about it way to much, as almost everyone here has stated. Sex shouldn't be occuring in your head it should be occuring in you dick.


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Anonymous #21

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #20]
    #7631070 - 11/13/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

nah, sex definitely is in the head.

the head controls the dick. remember?


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Anonymous #18

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #7631255 - 11/13/07 04:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I thought I was gay for years.

I'm a straight guy, but I'm pretty girlish in a lot of ways... I have effete mannerisms, a small, lithe body, and honestly I get along better with chicks. Plus I'm incredibly emotional. All of this combined to make me seriously question my sexuality, in spite of the fact that I'm not and never was actually attracted to men the way I am to women.

Sexuality is confusing.


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Anonymous #22

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #7632096 - 11/13/07 06:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Sexuality is confusing.




amen.

also, you totally get vocab points for using the phrase "lithe".


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Anonymous #21

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #7633056 - 11/13/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

dude, you are totally over thinking this and you probably can't feel anything because on a deep level you're JUST NOT ATTRACTED to this chick, like you don't feel a real connection. so dump her. you are so clearly not ready for sex or intimacy. the kind of connection you're describing only comes from years of building intimacy with a person you love and care about. it doesn't just HAPPEN. you have to WORK at relationships. the fact that you don't realize this and are just EXPECTING the girl to know what you want is really disgusting and sexist. you can't blame on her what you don't feel

have you ever thought about dating a girl for a long time before you have sex?

what am i saying, you're like 15, a long time for you is three weeks...

you need to spend a few more years alone until you have your head together.


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Anonymous #23

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7634035 - 11/14/07 08:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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but when everything is allowed you have to find the vulnerable head-space where this girl becomes a stranger again and you see her as the goddess archetype and its tricky because though she is interested in spirituality she does a lot of fucking dumb things

like listening to music and such when most music lowers the population and makes them stupider and i dunno

anyway

it's like

challenging





yeah

it's definitely

like

challenging

when only YOU can see the grand TRUTHS of things like

music

making people

STUPIDER -- STUPIDER -- STu pID ER

(you do know that's not an actual word, right?)

My point is that you've put yourself on a high horse

YOU DO NOT BELONG ON THAT HIGH HORSE

It's obvious from your post that while you may THINK you see "truths" some of which might actually be valid...you know next to nothing about life

You want to have "tantra" ?? You want everything to be so fucking idealized that you think some chick is going to bring you to enlightenment? Have you even lived? You're trying to jump the boat~!!!

Things are going to be awkward and imperfect, especially when starting out! Accept it! Or find yourself an older woman I guess, but even then you can't expect perfection from her or yourself. You can't expect to fuck in some little isolated bubble away from the things in society you don't like.

Your anger at society - does it make you feel cleaner? Do you feel better about yourself? Or are you just attached to your outrage? Are you above getting dirty and just having sex, not "tantra"? It sounds like you're afraid to lower yourself to anything that's not some sort of Buddha-Krishna-Parvati lotus fucking

You're not there. YOU ARE NOT THERE. Just accept yourself the way you are, get to know a human being, a girl, a woman, a man, anything, just not an archetype...otherwise you just want to fuck a reflection of yourself, you want to have sex with an idea not a human being....because human beings are imperfect and dirty INCLUDING YOU. Maybe eventually you can find that spiritual connection, but you think you can reach that place without getting your hands dirty first? Go ahead and try...

Or just buy a fucking butt plug or even an anal dildo...some of them vibrate and are quite pleasant


Like everyone said...out of your brain, into your dick or butt or whatever you want to be. Let go, let go of all judgement and control....otherwise have fun with your finger wagging at everyone else and paranoia about your broken dick or whatever your bored overactive mind circles on today


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Anonymous #18

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #7635305 - 11/14/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

QFT.


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Anonymous #24

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #7636027 - 11/14/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Im pretty sure you are a gay faggot.


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Anonymous #25

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #24]
    #7638434 - 11/15/07 06:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

op i hope you have not been too discouraged, and will find this post

don't listen to these people, you know them to be devils and its true.

sounds like i've had similar visions, and i've been searching for the same thing since i first saw it in my mind.

i personally don't know if my heaven on earth will come, but i do know listening to these mind-controlled monkeys is a waste of time, there is nothing wrong with you, and if you modify yourself to conform to their expectations of what is pleasurable or right or chill it will only waste your time and slowly poison your resolve to feel real experience.

perhaps you could take up zen to help give you happy patience while you search.

the more you give in to the lower realms the less energy you'll have when opportunity comes knocking.

dump your girlfriend if you have to, although you may need to stay with her and work through this for social reasons.


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Anonymous #25

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #25]
    #7638442 - 11/15/07 06:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

fuck, this is the last poster. i forgot, since most enlightened people don't walk around that way all the time you're going to have to work through this lower realm bullshit.

because when you meet that girl of your tantra dreams, she probably will have lower realm stuff and will want her shit box dry slammed when not meditating.

i'm not joking, this is infuriating its like a sick joke. some of the most evolved women i met have completely rejected me sexually despite vocally confirming that we have had spiritually binding experiences.

so yeah i guess i don't know what to do and my advice is meaningless.


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Anonymous #23

Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #25]
    #7640865 - 11/15/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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op i hope you have not been too discouraged, and will find this post

don't listen to these people, you know them to be devils and its true.

sounds like i've had similar visions, and i've been searching for the same thing since i first saw it in my mind.

i personally don't know if my heaven on earth will come, but i do know listening to these mind-controlled monkeys is a waste of time, there is nothing wrong with you, and if you modify yourself to conform to their expectations of what is pleasurable or right or chill it will only waste your time and slowly poison your resolve to feel real experience.

perhaps you could take up zen to help give you happy patience while you search.

the more you give in to the lower realms the less energy you'll have when opportunity comes knocking.

dump your girlfriend if you have to, although you may need to stay with her and work through this for social reasons.




it's good someone tried being nice. I sure couldn't...

It just sounded like he needed a kick in the ass more than further petting of his higher chakras or what not.

Ok let me attempt to speak the language of the original poster if I can --

Would you ever consider testing yourself...perhaps learning to exist in the lower realms without giving into them.
Walking among common folk and learning about them loving them without necessarily being influenced by them.
Every now and then saying or doing something impure while on the inside keeping your expanded, loving, morality intact...

Be like Jesus getting it on with Mary Magdeline. Hey, she was a whore turned saint, remember that...

Or perhaps share your banana with a mind controlled monkey. Learn to love the monkey, enjoy the monkey as the monkey enjoys her banana

I don't know, I just don't think heaven on earth comes to snobs very often. But I could be wrong. I've been wrong once or twice before...


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Re: Sexual novice, clumsy, impotent, gay? [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #7641464 - 11/15/07 07:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Looking for perfect tantra sex when you're obviously not experienced enough to even maneuver properly in the sack sounds like a recipe for failure.


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