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InvisibleClean
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so...who are the terrorists again?
    #7587277 - 11/02/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

see signature..


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Clean]
    #7587300 - 11/02/07 10:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

unfortunatly most people fail to realise things like this, either through ignorance or stupidity.


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Clean]
    #7587314 - 11/02/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I bought some weed and supported terrorists. :bongload:


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Stizzle]
    #7587325 - 11/02/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

if it was imported in mass quantity it's very likely that you did. they're called the DEA, and they don't just smuggle cocaine and heroin.


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Stizzle]
    #7587326 - 11/02/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

haha american people can't speak properly...


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: druqs]
    #7587369 - 11/02/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

What mean you?


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: druqs]
    #7587378 - 11/02/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That's a pretty crappy definition in my humble opinion, like saying diplomatic hedging in negotiation rooms is terrorism.

I guess if you wanted to be abstract about it you could say that this is akin to the "terrorism" definition that evokes images of 9/11, but I don't think it is a working definition.

Still, I get what the clip is trying to say, and perhaps it is better expressed through the quote "war is weapon of the strong and we glorify it, terrorism is the weapon of the weak and we demonize it"

I'm not sure who said that.


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Clean]
    #7587415 - 11/02/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:tinfoil::flowstone:


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Stizzle]
    #7591082 - 11/03/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i think he may be referring to the way some politicians were saying the word "terrorist".

it's a war on tare... kill all scales.


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Clean]
    #7591119 - 11/03/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

This country was built on terrorism...Sons of Liberty went around burning houses down...thats terrorism. In fact, Sons of Liberty were so important to us, their symbol is on our flag...red and white stripes. Yes we are terrorist.


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: aDoS]
    #7591166 - 11/03/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Good point...
History hinges on destruction of the old and construction of the new. We must ask who is doing the destruction, and who benefits from what comes after.


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Clean]
    #7591622 - 11/03/07 04:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Grats, you learned to embed. Want a cookie?


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: rexmundi]
    #7591669 - 11/03/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

rexmundi said:
That's a pretty crappy definition in my humble opinion, like saying diplomatic hedging in negotiation rooms is terrorism.

I guess if you wanted to be abstract about it you could say that this is akin to the "terrorism" definition that evokes images of 9/11, but I don't think it is a working definition.

Still, I get what the clip is trying to say, and perhaps it is better expressed through the quote "war is weapon of the strong and we glorify it, terrorism is the weapon of the weak and we demonize it"

I'm not sure who said that.




Smart post I like it.


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Clean]
    #7591677 - 11/03/07 04:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Clean said:
see signature..




How about a hint for those of us who have them turned off?


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7591715 - 11/03/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Clean]
    #7591752 - 11/03/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wouldn't ya like to know what would have happened if the U.S. was Iraq with Saddam in control, and the U.S. was in Iraqs place. Sorry I like this situation better. :thumbup:


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: rexmundi]
    #7591794 - 11/03/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

"war is weapon of the strong and we glorify it, terrorism is the weapon of the weak and we demonize it"




Taken literally this statement makes little to no sense, because war and terrorism are factually very very similar acts.

It only makes sense if the author of the quote was speaking in terms of how the terms "war" and "terrorism" are spun by politicians and media...

the quote at the end of the clip says it all
"See the world in a new way... focus on ACTIONS rather than uniforms and slogans"



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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: Clean]
    #7592242 - 11/03/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yep, that's what they're getting at.  War and Terrorism are just euphemisms for political violence/murder.  Definitions are all very subjective.

For example in the case of a person stealing food for survival, are they a a criminal for stealing?  Or is the bread merchant a criminal for denying food to a starving woman?  Depends on your definition of Crime. 

Often the defintion depends on who is in charge.  When the Bush administration commits political violence it is war, when desperate young men attack occupying soldiers, it is terrorism.  Still the video definition is deliberately vague, making it easy to accuse the Bush administration of "terrorism".  But it is easy to do that anyway.

Karl Von Clausewitz describes war as "politics by other means".  Chew on that for a while.;)


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Re: so...who are the terrorists again? [Re: rexmundi]
    #7592272 - 11/03/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Haha sorry for the rants.  I am a political science major and weed makes me ramble. :crazy:


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