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Le_Canard
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#7589651 - 11/02/07 10:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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RoosterCogburn said: The sad part is even tho you feel SOOOO much better, your brain still wants to go back.
I heard that. I quit about three months ago, and I still get cravings.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Le_Canard]
#7589772 - 11/02/07 10:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I quit for a year once and never got over BAD and nearly constant cravings. I quit another time for 6 months. I'm way into my third time now but have no idea how long it's been. I know it's been months but how many I haven't a clue as strange as that may seem. I still want one most of the time just as bad as the day I quit. It fucking sucks. There is obviously something else wrong with me that cigarettes help with but I don't know what.
My case may be extreme though. We are not farmers but growing up I lived on a tobacco farm in a house completely surrounded by tobacco fields. I played in the fields building forts out of stalks at the end of the seasons. As a kid I gave no thought to the clouds of pesticide that I still clearly remember the smell of at the age of 37 and was never called in from. My first job was priming tobacco at 14. EVERYONE around me smoked or chewed or both. I started when I was 12 and was up to 3 packs a day in my early twenties. Actually my first toke of smoke was at the age of 6. Some stupid friend of my mother had the bright idea of blowing smoke into my toy bubble pipe for me.
Damn I want a cigarette. I probably always will. My lungs just can't handle it though. It's already taken it's toll on my life. I have kids though. Besides... I can either quit now or quit in a hospital bed. I'm probably going to end up in the hospital bed anyway from the damage already done. At least I'll be used to the craving and won't have that to adjust to as well.
I no longer expect the craving to go away. I just want to get used to it at least. I guess that is true addiction. Not much I can do about it now but deal with it.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Asante]
#7590358 - 11/03/07 07:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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A few years ago, I started to be really disgusted by cigarettes and what they were doing to my body after smoking for close to a decade. I became so disgusted by them and myself that I picked a date and just quit cold turkey, using sheer willpower. Unlike the previous poster, my desire for cigarettes started to wane almost immediately, especially after I tricked my brain into associating them with their disgusting taste and effects.
I think most people when they smoke are sort of detached from it. Whereas I started focusing as hard as I could on every drag, the taste of the smoke, the way it burned my throat and lungs...and that seemed to help my brain associate cigarette smoke with something I didn't want.
Thankfully I had the support of my lovin' man, which helped keep me motivated, and now I've been cigarette smoke free for almost 2 whole years. I feel a hell of a lot better now that I'm not tied down to the cancer sticks, not to mention I started saving the $4/day I was spending on smokes. It doesn't seem like much, but it really does add up after awhile. I have no desire to take up cigarettes again. Yuck.
Edited by adrug (11/03/07 08:02 AM)
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Oracle Of Delphi
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Asante]
#7590380 - 11/03/07 08:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i quite twice. the key to me staying off ciggs was to stay away from people who smoked ciggs, especially in the first year. Now I'm ok around ppl who smoke - i get repulsed by how smokers smell. as long as that stays the same, ill be all right. occasionally i will see a handsome gentleman smoking, and want one. but then i snap out of it. ood
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
#7590391 - 11/03/07 08:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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So many great stories... It's strange how some people can overcome it. I don't believe in luck, so you guys must have some brain wiring the rest of us don't.
I am the typical "consistant quitter". I just feel like my body can handle bouts of smoking, as long as it gets a chance to heal back up. I started at 21 and I never smoked more than 1 pack/day.
I just really like it, and I always try to smoke 3 or 4 cigs a day... They really matter then! But invariably, it becomes 6 a day. Then 7. Then 10... you know where this is going. 
ANyway, on Monday I'm gonna give it another go, in earnest. I'll be stopping back in this thread for help. Maybe a few of us can band together through the week. The success stories are actually helpful!
Now, however, is time for and .
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#7590392 - 11/03/07 08:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I will say the patch helped A LOT. and i couldn't smoke "anything" till I was at least 3 months in. Because the two were so closely connected, I couldn't do one with out the other. After a few months, it was ok to do one, NOT the other. And 4 yrs later, Im still Ok. good luck.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
#7590394 - 11/03/07 08:21 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Asante]
#7590396 - 11/03/07 08:22 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good luck Wiccan!
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Learyfan]
#7590570 - 11/03/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe this is how I should go about quitting without hitting a major craving. Personally I can't stand the taste of Marlboro's...if I took them up and quit them It'd go a lot smoother than having to give up these delicious premium Canadian Smokes .
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Le_Canard]
#7590586 - 11/03/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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ToiletDuk said:
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RoosterCogburn said: The sad part is even tho you feel SOOOO much better, your brain still wants to go back.
I heard that. I quit about three months ago, and I still get cravings.
Expect that for the next few years. They might not even go away, they just won't be as horrible as they can be within a few months of quiting.
Edited by 0xYg3n (11/03/07 10:13 AM)
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: 0xYg3n]
#7590591 - 11/03/07 10:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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They will never go away.
Not true. I smoked for most of my teenage years, but I have been quit now since my early 20's and don't have cravings at all.
Maybe the difference is that I don't want to smoke.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: trendal]
#7590610 - 11/03/07 10:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Day 3 and still going strong 
I discovered that you have to keep the chemistry and the brain strictly separate.
Chemistry dictates that you every so often get an impulse to smoke. That's addiction. The trick is to not let your mind get involved and simply and without strong emotion dismiss it when it comes.
If you let your mind get involved you can arrive at all sorts of epic scenes: rebellion against your quitting attempt, devil's advocate, despair.. Thats not the withdrawal, it's the mind. If you try keep the mind out of the loop it looks like it won't become unbearable.
When I get the impulse I calmly think: "nope: don't want that" and go about my business. So far it works. Bear with it as it comes, don't let despair build up.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Asante]
#7590713 - 11/03/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's the right attitude to have. Good luck Wiccan!
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Cowgold]
#7590737 - 11/03/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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cigs are just something thats constinte in life. Soon as you light it, you feel at peace for 5 mins.
the key to quiting is to want to as said above, but to also replace it with something.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Asante]
#7591225 - 11/03/07 02:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: If you let your mind get involved you can arrive at all sorts of epic scenes: rebellion against your quitting attempt, devil's advocate, despair.. Thats not the withdrawal, it's the mind. If you try keep the mind out of the loop it looks like it won't become unbearable.
When I get the impulse I calmly think: "nope: don't want that" and go about my business. So far it works. Bear with it as it comes, don't let despair build up.
 It sounds so much like getting out of an abusive relationship. You are right on, tho. I remember when I started again after my first try quitting, I was almost sad that I couldn't smoke. I missed it... like my goldfish had died. The second time around I didn't LET myself get sad. I just had to remind myself of all the horrible disgusting side effects before I had any kind of feeling about it.
This is bad for me. I do not need it = Smoking, ex-boyfriends, red lipstick, and garlic shrimp. End of story.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: CherryBom]
#7591250 - 11/03/07 02:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You were in an abusive relationship with your goldfish? 
Its a form of self abuse aye, I hope the second half of the first week is as doable as the first half.
Many people say the first week is the worst.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Asante]
#7591338 - 11/03/07 02:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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damn wiccan how many times have you quit now?? maybe you were just ment to be a smoker?
do you want to live a long life? if not go light up!
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: dutchmushroom]
#7591350 - 11/03/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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maybe you were just ment to be a smoker?
Then sobeit 
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do you want to live a long life? if not go light up!
Its also a matter of quality of life. Nonsmokers have more fun, unless you smoke Heroin.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Asante]
#7591383 - 11/03/07 02:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Physical (chemical) addiction to nicotine finishes two weeks after quitting smoking. This is an actual fact (stepfather-in-law is a university professor specialized in tobacco addiction and explained it to me once)
The problem is the psychological aspec. Ridding oneself of the habit of lighting up after a meal etc is tough as it has become unconcious.
The other thing that makes it hard is that a lot of people quit smoking even though they don't really want to (be it that they quit for health, kids, yellow teeth, whatever). Quitting when you don't really want to means that you end up idealizing tobacco and remember it as something great. And because you remember it as something so great (even though it might not have been) but you can't have it, you end up wanting it even more.
The key is to quit thinking about the stuff
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: Cowgold]
#7594670 - 11/04/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good luck with quitting Wiccan_Seeker. I know you can do it.
By the way, I'm new here so hello all (and I sent you a PM Wiccan Seeker.)
I quit smoking nearly 2 years ago. I had smoked since I was 14, so that was 17 years. I was up to about one and a half packs a day when I quit. I have written the story of how I quit to try to help other people. I posted it on my website. I don't know if we are allowed to post URLs here, but I think I have seen a few, so I'll give it a try. The link to my quit-smoking story is http://www.everythingunderthemoon.net/quit-smoking.htm
I basically used mind power (positive thinking) to quit. It really works. I never craved cigarettes after I quit. I did use nicotine patches in the beginning as well, which I think was helpful, but since I had a pretty bad skin reaction to the patches, I had to wean off of those much quicker than recommended. I had no withdrawals at all and I have never smoked again. I still smoke pot, but that doesn't make me crave cigarettes. I just convinced my subconcious that quitting was easy. If you do that, it IS easy. 
Good luck!
Bright Blessings, Heather
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