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I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house
#7586936 - 11/02/07 09:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Or in other words, I quit smoking yesterday. Cravings so far are surprisingly mild, I guess it's a motivation thing. 22 hours without a cig and all is well so far.
My lungs didn't like smoke and my cardiovascular system can't be happy with the jolts nicotine provides. On top of that I hate the fiending effect, the effect that you "got to have it".
I hope that this time once more it'll last for years and years, like my last quitting attempt did. If I break free I don't want to smoke a single speck of tobacco ever again.
Smoking sucks. Tiny reward, huge price to pay.
Theres some and some craving, but my lungs feel better already. It kinda helps not to be sucking smoke into them every hour, go figure 
Anyone else quitting? Any quitting stories you'd like to share?
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: trendal]
#7590610 - 11/03/07 10:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Day 3 and still going strong 
I discovered that you have to keep the chemistry and the brain strictly separate.
Chemistry dictates that you every so often get an impulse to smoke. That's addiction. The trick is to not let your mind get involved and simply and without strong emotion dismiss it when it comes.
If you let your mind get involved you can arrive at all sorts of epic scenes: rebellion against your quitting attempt, devil's advocate, despair.. Thats not the withdrawal, it's the mind. If you try keep the mind out of the loop it looks like it won't become unbearable.
When I get the impulse I calmly think: "nope: don't want that" and go about my business. So far it works. Bear with it as it comes, don't let despair build up.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: CherryBom]
#7591250 - 11/03/07 02:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You were in an abusive relationship with your goldfish? 
Its a form of self abuse aye, I hope the second half of the first week is as doable as the first half.
Many people say the first week is the worst.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: dutchmushroom]
#7591350 - 11/03/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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maybe you were just ment to be a smoker?
Then sobeit 
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do you want to live a long life? if not go light up!
Its also a matter of quality of life. Nonsmokers have more fun, unless you smoke Heroin.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: 7heather]
#7595679 - 11/04/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Welcome to the Shroomery 7heather 
Well guys, I just relapsed. Earlier this evening I had a Cyan trip with a friend, which especially for me was EXTREMELY difficult. Both of us estimate these fresh harvest cyans as 25+mg/gr Psilocybin, I shit you not. This unexpected strength made us trip an order of magnitude deeper than we anticipated (dose doublings do that with shrooms, noticed? With each doubling it's a whole different ballgame.)
Dry heaving, intense fear of dying, body wound up tight with anxiety. Godem, it was Hell. Sheer utter Hell.
Finally I managed to let go and I was overcome by a peace and a bliss that was indescribable. Whenever I struck up conversation though I felt bad again, until I let that go and focussed on my inner process. It was totally remarkable: I was being guided on the path of surrender. If I let go it would be bliss, if I sought diversion I'd feel bad.
I never reacted this extremely to mushrooms, and never was it so clear to me that there was actual guidance going on.
After my friend left I bought a pack of Marlbs. My mind had gotten ensnared by the chemistry of addiction.
I smoked one after four days of abstinence, after four days of lusting after it. Guess what...
Did it taste good? No, it tasted like shit. Did it feel good to inhale the smoke? No, I coughed, it doesn't feel good to inhale smoke. Did the nicotine feel good? No. My pulse went up, my mind got fuzzy, nothing desirable. No euphoria. Not even a crisis. Does it feel good to have the cravings lifted? Not particularly.
My relapse was a futile exercise in redundancy. I no longer want this, all it did was re-affirm that I'm through with tobacco.
I don't even feel "in the danger zone" for having relapsed: it just was in every possible way, nothing like I expected. A good thing: in the inhaling of the smoke I felt that four days of no smoking already have done my lungs a ton of good I flushed the cigarettes without emotion, it's just over between tobacco and me. So not worth it that it puzzles me how it held me hostage.
I guess fear of quitting kept me smoking. What a completely silly reason to poison yourself.
I didn't kick the Marlboro Man out of my house this time, or anything emotional like that, it was a matter-of-factly parting of ways.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: DieCommie]
#7595794 - 11/04/07 06:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am only 12 hours in, but I feel the cravings.
If I didn't get overwhel;med by that trip I wouldn't have smoked. This fourth day the cravings were already markedly less frequent and intense. So hang in there Tang, the worst of it might only be the first three days.
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Keep trying dude! You knew it wouldnt be easy, and you cant expect to win every time.
I'll try stay on the path, it seems to only have shown me that I'm through with it. There was no reward effect to speak of.
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Right now I am battling marijuana addiction, not fun!
I used to smoke 0.5-1.5gr marijuana a day, typically a gram of quality dutch Indoor, for over a decade. I was addicted, aye. Marijuana addiction is a very real thing, despite many objections raised by mostly stoners who aren't quiting at the time 
What helped for me was reduce my use to the last 2-3 hours befoire bedtime. This way the cannabis didn't interfere with my daytime agenda and it kept the grammage down. Once you're toking, you want to toke more so postpone getting high altogether to the close of day.
What was hardest for me when I quit weed altogether was the insomnia. I solved that by drugging myself to sleep for two weeks.
Eventually I quit altogether and to my shock after a few months I didn't even miss it. At all. A $8 a day habit and I didn't miss it God that felt stupid.
Moderation is harder than quitting altogether. With quitting pot though, after a year or so has passed you got a new shot at using it responsibly, you are unaddicted once more. With nicotine: no dice, once an addict always an addict.
Occasionally (including tonight) I smoke a few tiny crumbs of hash. That gets me where I want to be and theres no escalation. Gimme a gram of hash and thats all I need in a year, whereas I was addicted to smoking that in a day for a decade.
It can be done, DieCommie. with Pot, it can be done.
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Re: I just kicked the Marlboro Man out of my house [Re: dutchmushroom]
#7597629 - 11/05/07 08:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i really dont understand how people get "addicted" to cannabis,
I don't "get" addiction to slot machines, but some people feed it everything they own.
Just because you yourself have little problems with it doesn't mean others can't have problems with it, and they are no less because of it.
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