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Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked.
    #7586897 - 11/02/07 08:41 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Calling the crime "vicious and callous," a judge Wednesday handed down the maximum nine-year, prison term to a young man who while naked broke into an elderly woman's Berry Creek home and beat her into unconsciousness.
The 84-year-old victim, who was hospitalized two months due to the extent of her injuries, told a judge that at one point her suffering was so great, she asked her doctors to let her die.

The victim reportedly got off two pistol shots before she was tackled into a wall and her face "pounded" into the floor by her admitted attacker, Logan Duane Hursh, then 18.

In urging a lesser sentence, his attorney argued Wednesday the teen was in a "disassociate state" due to the ingestion of some hallucinatory mushrooms, which Hursh claims he was induced to take with an abusive family member as part of a "spiritual cleansing" process.

When police responded to the victim's 9-1-1 call, they found the naked intruder in a back bedroom, watching TV, as the elderly victim lay unconscious in a pool of blood on the floor of a front room.

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7586903 - 11/02/07 08:45 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

fucking moron... god i hate this shit, it makes me pretty angry.


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #7586920 - 11/02/07 08:55 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like a setup to me. I'll bet this guy wasn't even naked until he heard the police, took his clothes off once he knew he was busted, and set the stage for an insanity plea or some type of incapacitation. Guy was probably a common thug and used his ingestion and "abusive family" as an excuse for committing the crime.

Seems quite suspect. :rolleyes:

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: Wronguy]
    #7586948 - 11/02/07 09:06 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

THIS is what gives shrooms a bad rep and gets them banned


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: Nibin]
    #7586950 - 11/02/07 09:08 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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THIS is what gives shrooms a bad rep and gets them banned





I know whenever I hear some dumbass like this I get fucking PISSED!

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #7587175 - 11/02/07 10:21 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Thats so fuckin brutal.

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: lucyNot]
    #7587355 - 11/02/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I call bullshit. Has anyone here ever had a point during a mushroom trip where they could actually carry out such a crime? Or even know someone who has? The article says he was in a "dissociative state" at the time, but psilocybin mushrooms take people in the opposite direction -- making them more connected and more aware of how their actions affect others.

This is so far out of character of the mushroom experience that I have a really hard time believing he was actually under any meaningful influence of mushrooms. In fact, I would go out on a limb and say that this whole defense was a lie, and neither the defendant nor his lawyer have any first-hand knowledge of what a mushroom trip is really like.

I suppose the other possibility is that he consumed mushrooms in anticipation of the crime so that he could use that as a defense, then committed the crime prior to the shrooms kicking in. But even that is far-fetched, because then you'd set yourself up for the most hellish experience imaginable.

Glad the judge threw the book at this waste of oxygen.

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: pokermush]
    #7587392 - 11/02/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

sounds like PCP rage to me...


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: wortiesbo]
    #7587522 - 11/02/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe he was really piss drunk and out to steal some money to buy more crack...

I'm interested to know exactly what he tested positive for...

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: kidaihuan]
    #7587605 - 11/02/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i argee he was on something else other then mushrooms. it doesn't matter how much i eat i still know what the fuck i'm doing.


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7587724 - 11/02/07 12:52 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

WTF? what a dumbass. making shrooms look bad too.

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: pokermush]
    #7588022 - 11/02/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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I call bullshit. Has anyone here ever had a point during a mushroom trip where they could actually carry out such a crime? Or even know someone who has? .




sadly I must answer yes to this question. I do know of a case in europe I think it was around year 2000 when a person brutally murderet another person durin a trip with a knife thinking the victim was possesed by evil spirits or something like that. As much as I love psycadelics I wont go in some denial that things like this cant happen, mushrooms affects people in very diffrent way and people are diffrent in many ways. I also know about a case when mushrooms were used in a satanic cult where they brutally sacrificed animals and stuff like that.


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: shamantra]
    #7588075 - 11/02/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Violence is possible during a bad heavy trip. Under these circumstances he might have thought that he was in his house and the old lady was an intruder with a gun threatening his safety. Ego loss can get messy if the person experiencing it tries to fight it.

But I agree that this was probably a common criminal trying to get out of trouble.


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7588152 - 11/02/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

No it just means that mushrooms are bad for some people. People on this board need to wake the fuck up and stop being so stupid. Yes in my experiences I have never lost control, but to say it doesn't happen is stupid. I've seen people get super disassociated on mushrooms, never violent, but it still happens. Mushrooms are neither perfectly safe nor are they the devil. But if you give psychedelics to someone with a head full of garbage, what do you expect is going to happen?


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: stew248]
    #7588186 - 11/02/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I did that shit last week... I didn't hang about with the telly though, that thing can take care of itself.


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: Wronguy]
    #7588300 - 11/02/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Sounds like a setup to me. I'll bet this guy wasn't even naked until he heard the police, took his clothes off once he knew he was busted, and set the stage for an insanity plea or some type of incapacitation. Guy was probably a common thug and used his ingestion and "abusive family" as an excuse for committing the crime.

Seems quite suspect. :rolleyes:




That's fine except that judges don't see drug use as an mitagating factor.

The truth is the guy was a retard to begin with and shrooms made no difference.

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: wortiesbo]
    #7588330 - 11/02/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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sounds like PCP rage to me...




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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7588375 - 11/02/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

now we wont have to read a story about him doing something like that again until hes 27 or so. :thumbdown:


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: Mickalopagus]
    #7588622 - 11/02/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

There always naked. Why always naked? lol

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: islandtripper]
    #7589421 - 11/02/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Another case against something that can be very special and completly harmless to the majority, which of coarse one case with something that alters your perception can ruin it for many.


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7589460 - 11/02/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

probably more cases of people who were completely sober going on a naked assault rampage than people on shrooms doing it.


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7590087 - 11/03/07 02:10 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i'm glad this piece of crap got nine years. I don't care what drug he was on.

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: igloo]
    #7590088 - 11/03/07 02:11 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

then again, the bitch did try to shoot him...

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7590256 - 11/03/07 06:09 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: FecalDildo]
    #7590740 - 11/03/07 11:31 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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Sounds like a setup to me. I'll bet this guy wasn't even naked until he heard the police, took his clothes off once he knew he was busted, and set the stage for an insanity plea or some type of incapacitation. Guy was probably a common thug and used his ingestion and "abusive family" as an excuse for committing the crime.

Seems quite suspect. :rolleyes:




That's fine except that judges don't see drug use as an mitagating factor.

The truth is the guy was a retard to begin with and shrooms made no difference.




QFT, i agree.


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: Mickalopagus]
    #7590753 - 11/03/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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probably more cases of people who were completely sober going on a naked assault rampage than people on shrooms doing it.





very true.


nobody ever seems to remember this when it happens though.


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: pB0t]
    #7591532 - 11/03/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

wow... what a fucking moron


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7592528 - 11/03/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

what a dum ass could of killed the poor old lady

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: veda_sticks]
    #8557615 - 06/24/08 09:06 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

This kind of shit pisses me off. The dumb motherfucker should have controlled himself. I believe it. Because, I believe that people are to the point, they don't even care to know what shit does to them. This guy probably ate a bunch of shrooms thinking he was cool and didn't know how to handle it and wigged. That's not even the main part that pisses me off. He beat an old woman? That motherfucker needs to be taught a lesson. I hope he never fucking touches drugs again. If you can't fucking handle it, don't do it.

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: veda_sticks]
    #8557628 - 06/24/08 09:12 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

If he was on shrooms, he was probably breaking in for the hell of it, and when she started firing at his sorry ass he probably figured it was her or him that had to go. Why he was watching tv? I don't know. Actually. maybe PCP.


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: chobumms]
    #8557744 - 06/24/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I've seen people go into complete ego-death on shrooms, and this is where a trip-sitter is extremely important... they NEED people around them that can watch over them while they're in this state.

Where was this guy's family who supposedly forced him into taking the mushrooms? That's a lousy excuse by the way... Kid definitely had some mental problems to begin with, the mushrooms just catalyzed them to the surface.


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: Adamist]
    #8558545 - 06/24/08 02:10 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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I've seen people go into complete ego-death on shrooms, and this is where a trip-sitter is extremely important... they NEED people around them that can watch over them while they're in this state.

Where was this guy's family who supposedly forced him into taking the mushrooms? That's a lousy excuse by the way... Kid definitely had some mental problems to begin with, the mushrooms just catalyzed them to the surface.



duh shrooms are like the easiest thing to get ego loss from


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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #8558768 - 06/24/08 03:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I big difference between the people on these forums and this dumbass is we took the time to research and learn about what we want to put in our bodies beforehand. By learning about substances you put in your sysytem you can minimize the chances of something going horribly wrong. I would never just take something I was just given to me unless I knew what it was and what it would do to me. Sometimes people learn this the hardway.

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Re: Teen gets 9 years for assaulting elderly woman while on mushrooms and naked. [Re: cottlestonpie]
    #8566131 - 06/26/08 10:42 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Like taking 30 triple c's with tylenol in them? = Cluster-fucked liver.


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