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fsdoubleflip
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First Time - A Little Scared
#7585980 - 11/01/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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[gradient:#FF0000,#D9FF00]I've been thinking about getting some shrooms, but I'm a little scared of doing them. Despite all the things posted on the site, I still have the feeling in the back of my head that a "bad trip" isn't the worst that could happen to me. I was wondering if maybe you guys could give me a little reassurance, and maybe answer a few questions. Here are a few on my head right now: - How much should a good amount of shrooms (for a beginner) cost? - What should they look like? (pictures would be appreciated) - Should I do it with a friend around? - How much should I do the first time? (in terms of number of shrooms, since i do not have a scale to measure grams) - What is the best and easiest way to prepare and/or eat the shrooms? Also, the only other psychedelic I've ever done was weed, and that was only once. [/gradient]
Thanks! Hope to be contributing to that tripping quotes thread soon lol!!
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MeatyVitamin
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: fsdoubleflip]
#7586014 - 11/01/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey, I was in the same shoes you are about three weeks ago. Have a look here http://www.shroomery.org/9054/Trippers-FAQ. This answered pretty much all of my questions, really really well actually. Hopefully it helps you too.
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: MeatyVitamin]
#7587677 - 11/02/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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well, I'm still somewhat scared. I'm worried that I might go insane or something. Can that happen? Are shrooms dangerous to mental or physical help? I want to know from someone who has done it, not read a medical report with a bunch of word I don't understand. Also, how many shrooms should I do the first time? I don't know how many are in a gram, so i would like to know. I really want to be confident that I will be generally the same person, in terms of behavior (you know, like not acting like my mind is in another place) after I trip. I am 17, is that too young? I also plan on doing them dried, so how many dried would be good for a first-timer? Sorry for all these dumb questions, I just don't want to be scared of doing shrooms anymore.
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: fsdoubleflip]
#7587710 - 11/02/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Based on what I know mushrooms probably won't make you go insane, unless you have a history of mental problems. I've read about a few members on these forums who have found out that their families had histories of mental illness, and many of them have done mushrooms quite a bit with no negative mental effects. As far as "going insane" you'll be tripping, to some people that might be considered going insane, to others it is just experiencing the world like you've never seen it. A very important thing to remember is to relax, being full of anxiety and worry will just lead to a bad trip. The trip won't change who you are, but it might change the way you see the world. Like learning something new. When it comes to "how many mushrooms" you can't really specify a number because the size of the mushrooms vary quite substantially. If you are buying them from a dealer you'll know the weight, its a faily worthwhile investment to get a scale for measuring personal doses. For a first time trip some people recommend as little as 0.75 grams, but the general consensus i've seen is between 1.5 and 2 grams for your first trip. That 2 grams could be 5 small shrooms or 2 big ones, its pretty difficult to guage weight just from the size too so like I said, scale might be worthwhile.
If you got any other questions i'll do my best to answer them for you, the community around here pretty freakin smart about this stuff, so maybe some of them could shed some light for you.
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: MeatyVitamin]
#7587870 - 11/02/07 01:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes i agree with meaty its difficult to say how many or even how it will turn out , i was 13 when i started taking acid and mushrooms and i stopped for years and i think the trip is more light hearted when your young and fearless than when your older having said that doesnt mean you wont panic if you start to feel negative or worried during a trip. best thing you can do, cos lets be fair your panicing already is dose a dry gram which will give you the feeling of tripping but will almost definatly be in your control if you like the feeling of altered mindstate then you can afford to make it a little crazier next time, i myself just5 threw myself into the deep end but ive done some crazy shit with drugs that most wont even dream of doing anyways hope you enjoy your trip and remember the most important thing is RELAX REMEMBER THE EFFECTS WILL GO WITHIN 6 HOURS NO MATTER HOW BAD YOU MAY FEEL BE WELL AND ENJOY OH AND DONT WORRIE SO MUCH LOSING YOUR MIND IS FUN
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: MeatyVitamin]
#7587877 - 11/02/07 01:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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fsdouble,
do 1 gram for your first time. an eighth should cost between $20-25.
you are definitely going to need a scale. there's no way of telling really how much you are eating without one. i bought a cheap weighing scale (not electronic) for only $5. works just fine.
there's no chance of flipping your lid on only 1gram, you will be absolutely fine. As long as you are surrounded by people who care about you and are in a nice place everything will be fine.
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: grandesign]
#7587922 - 11/02/07 01:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i'm a beginner too and slightly afraid. but the way i see it is, i wanna do it.. so nothings going to stop me.. i might as well succumb to any trip my body gives me. i understand that i will not come out the same.
in the back of my mind rests the uneasy thought "I have a chance at going insane. I have a chance at bringing back all my mental problems I once defeated.(Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Panic Disorder" But i really feel like i will enjoy them if it goes good and learn something if it goes bad. i don't even think a bad first trip could stop me from doing them again after.. unless i slip into insanity.
i have smoked shitloads of weed for years now and even sometimes on weed i can get some insights and uneasy thoughts (will i ever come down?!) but more and more recently i can harness these thoughts with a very useful mental chant, "it is only the drug, it is only the drug"
i think it would be useful if we had a way of telling how much should be taken by body weight, would that work?
for my first trip i'm thinking 1.5 - 2 grams should be sufficient to see how the drugs effect me. (though some friends tell me i should just take the whole 8th) i have a pretty low tolerance level to drugs and i am very sensitive to my senses. (i am very in tune with my own body) and weigh about 125-130 lbs.
good luck with your trip friend, do report back with how it goes.
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: igwna]
#7588054 - 11/02/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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another thing fsdouble,
if you can get a hold of some xanax (2mg), those will pretty much cancel any bad trip you might encounter. just having those in your possession may help you feel more at ease too.
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: mushroomplume]
#7588059 - 11/02/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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how many would you recommend taking in the event of a bad trip olive?
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: igwna]
#7588068 - 11/02/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha, don't take the xanax, if you're doing mushies for the first time don't have that safety net. Just let the feeling engulf you, if you're that afraid of the shrooms maybe you shouldn't do them at all.
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: MeatyVitamin]
#7588077 - 11/02/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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"that afraid"
i'm not afraid to do them at all. i just don't want a bad trip to be my first experience (but am perfectly willing to accept one)
benzos are for anxiety, getting real worked up during a trip can cause a bad trip. taking a benzo to calm down would therefor reduce the bad trip.
ya dig?
i'm taking the shrooms regardless
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: igwna]
#7588088 - 11/02/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol, cool. In my crazy version of the world i see mushrooms as something you're not supposed to control, you take them specifically to be put outside your comfort zone. If i had the xanax i'd be too tempted to take it at the first sign of a bad trip. Again thats just me talking, not some professional advice.
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: MeatyVitamin]
#7588098 - 11/02/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah thats completely understandable. i don't feel like i would use it unless i started full blown buggin though.
not to mention, i had no desire in having any for my first trip at such a low dose.. but possibly for higher doses in the future. just thought it woudl be good info to have.
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: MeatyVitamin]
#7588109 - 11/02/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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if ur scared to bad trip then u shouldnt trip at all.. u gotta get over ur fear of bad tripping.. worrying about bad tripping is what will cause to end up havin a bad trip the trip is wat u make of it.. if u want to go to a happy land on mushies, then go! dont think about negative or scary things and if they come up during the trip simply let them pass and dont let them bother u.. ull be fine dont be scared.. mushrooms are beautiful and full of wonder!
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: fsdoubleflip]
#7588149 - 11/02/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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No need to fear! Stay positive grab a couple grams, pop them in your mouth, chew and swallow. Don't trip alone your first time and do them when you've had a day that's been good enough to counter any remaining fears you have...don't try to control your trip, just remember to breathe deeply when it gets intense, and if you feel like its getting bumpy, get up and dance or jingle some keys or listen to chill music. You'll have fun, just get the bad stuff out of your head...I've had several "intense trips" but 0 trips that I would call "bad"
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: 81Renaissance]
#7588182 - 11/02/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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skor, take 2mg worth or what is referred to as a bar.
xanax comes in .5mg, 1mg, and 2mg tablets.
I reccomend only taking the xanax if you KNOW that the trip is taking a terrible turn and it's in your best interest to stop it. Don't listen to Meaty, some people have very negative reactions to psychedelics and there is nothing to prove by putting yourself through hell if you are one of these people.
If you think you can withstand a bad trip, I highly reccomend it, usually those "bad" moments fade very quickly and soon turn to marvelous ones.
Happy trails.
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: mushroomplume]
#7588198 - 11/02/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I didn't read most of the responses but after reading your initial post it's clear to me you still need to do some research. The best thing that you can possibly do to assure yourself that taking them is a good thing is to do your homework. A lot of those questions are things you should already know. The more you research the more you will be comfortable in trying them.
I would suggest Sacred Mushroom of Visions: Teonanácatl by Ralph Metzner. This book is a great source for learning more about mushrooms.
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Mr_Teonanacatl: my thoughts exactly!
fsdoubleflip: RTFM! The questions you asked speak volumes as far as how much research you really did. Before experimenting with powerful shit like psilocybin, you should read everything you can get your hands on.
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: c0_hush]
#7589429 - 11/02/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
c0_hush said: Mr_Teonanacatl: my thoughts exactly!
fsdoubleflip: RTFM! The questions you asked speak volumes as far as how much research you really did. Before experimenting with powerful shit like psilocybin, you should read everything you can get your hands on.
oh of course, but it's better to have questions answered directly from people who have already experienced shrooms, you know?
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Re: First Time - A Little Scared [Re: c0_hush]
#7589452 - 11/02/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
- How much should a good amount of shrooms (for a beginner) cost? - What should they look like? (pictures would be appreciated) - Should I do it with a friend around? - How much should I do the first time? (in terms of number of shrooms, since i do not have a scale to measure grams) - What is the best and easiest way to prepare and/or eat the shrooms?
- 2g, ~$15. It's a bit more than 1/2 eighth, you will be completely in control. This is DRIED, not fresh. - There are other threads with pictures, use the search bar, type "what does look like" and it should pop up. - only if your other friend is also tripping, or is at least high. A sober friend is generally embarrassing or has negative vibes. It's funner if everyone's tripping, you'll feel most comfortable! - number of shrooms, is about 3 caps = 2g. If you don't have a scale. Give or take half a cap, it's not gonna make that big of a difference in the long run. - preparation? If they're dried, just eat them, or make a simple PB/J sandwich if you're concerned about taste. In the future, you may want to use the "Lemon Method".
And guess what, I know all this, WITHOUT EVER HAVING DONE SHROOMS! See how much you can learn? And I'm probably not gonna do shrooms till next spring at least. And guess what, you know what the best way to eliminate your fear is? Do ACID! It's guaranteed a better experience, I've only taken 1/2 hits of acid, and it's totally eliminated my fears of drugs. I feel like I can do anything after that - plus, acid's a lot cheaper.
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