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Basic festival knowledge
    #7584574 - 11/01/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

1. Cost of tickets (usually in the hundreds?)
2. When to get them (how far in advance)
3. Where to get them (specific people who sell tickets?)

Is it better flying to a festival or driving?  I think I'd rather drive or do the bus or train thing, so that I can bring goodies if need be. 

I've never been to a big festival before, ever.  I have never even been to a concert.  (sheltered) So...this winter I'm going to save as much as I can and then do as much as I can this summer. 

Any advice appreciated.  :smile:


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584605 - 11/01/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

dont know how about festivals in us, festivals tickets are from 75euros to 150 euros, im sure you find both cheaperr and more expensive ones. I usually buy concert and festival tickets in good time, 2-3 months before unless its smaller concerts that requires no traveling, Most festivals ive bought the tickets from official places where tickets are sold, festival webpages usually has a link where to buy tickets.

If you want to come to europe Im at summerjam in germany each year which is one of the best reggea festival there is imo. :wink:

its great to be at festivals , i like when there is not so much drunkeness such as puking, yellin and fighting , but  where people are more chilled and smokes joints and manage to behave when drunk :smile:  summerjam is perfect for that :smile:


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584615 - 11/01/07 04:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

1.Depends on alot of factors.

2.Its best to get them early because sometimes there are earlwy bird tickets for alot cheaper.

3.Whoever's selling them cheapest.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584628 - 11/01/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Jambase is a great resource for finding events in specific locations. The cost is generally determined by how far in advance you buy your tickets. Check to see if you can get a volunteer position. It will generally get you in for under $20 if you work for four hours a day; checking people for wrist-bands, greeting newcomers, watching for people with glass bottles, and working backstage.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584638 - 11/01/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

IMO

Road tripping with friends beats air travel in all forms, I've done both and prefer a lot of time to kick back, rent cheap hotels, camp, eat out, hit micro-brews and generally enjoy the sights, food and people you can afford along the road you are traveling. I'm not really one to stay on interstates though.

200$ is a far amount to predict for a 75,000 person festival, remember planning a high figure will leave extra for later if you are over.

You have to understand the festival circuit and reach out, get on mailing lists for the popular annual festivals and you'll know when sales are, this depends on your location and how far you want to drive.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: Adom]
    #7584732 - 11/01/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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IMO

Road tripping with friends beats air travel in all forms, I've done both and prefer a lot of time to kick back, rent cheap hotels, camp, eat out, hit micro-brews and generally enjoy the sights, food and people you can afford along the road you are traveling. I'm not really one to stay on interstates though.

200$ is a far amount to predict for a 75,000 person festival, remember planning a high figure will leave extra for later if you are over.

You have to understand the festival circuit and reach out, get on mailing lists for the popular annual festivals and you'll know when sales are, this depends on your location and how far you want to drive.




Thanks man. I feel the same way about road tripping. $200...is that the price of the festival + extras? Sounds definitely doable. I hope to have at least $2000 saved before summer hits. That should get me on a few good road trips and festival experiences.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584747 - 11/01/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Oh...what are some of the festivals you guys like to go to?

Like...the ones you wouldn't want to miss.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584750 - 11/01/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Jambase has nifty festival guide:

http://www.jambase.com/Festivals/

Usually you buy your ticket from the festival's website. Ticket prices vary greatly depending on size and talent. Usually it's a bargain though because you get to see so many bands and often camping is included in the ticket price.

I think it's best to drive to a festival, especially if you plan on camping. And plus, the trip is half the journey.

Save up and have some fun next summer. Music and dancing can cleanse the soul. Maybe you'll even get a chance to meet some fellow Shroomerites.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584774 - 11/01/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

200$ for tickets, I usually spend about 75$ on food and booze before I enter the grounds, I try to have my drugs prepared before hand and I have no idea what you prefer so this is up to you. I also like to have 150-200$ in my pocket for beer tents, run ins with my ol' nemisis cocaine at odd hours and anything else I may want to purchase in the lot.

I was at the first 3 bonnaroos for under 500$ and I drove 18 hours each time, I did 10K for 200$ a couple years back. If you are willing to sell water, drinks, beer, sandwiches, homeade art stuff for awhile when there you can pay for costs and meet cool people while there but it cuts into your free time also.

I kind of got off the big festival circuit, I think I need to hit one this coming summer myself, thanks for the thread, I may have to plan one this year. Been dodging them for too long.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #7584782 - 11/01/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Speaking of what's up?  Have any thoughts on next summer :bigjoint:


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584783 - 11/01/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I REALLY like the 10,000 Lakes Music Festival in MN. Next year will be my 4th consecutive year going to that.

http://10klf.com/

Bonnaroo in TN is always a great festival in terms of talent. It is the largest so be prepared to feel like cattle amongst a sea of at least 80,000 other people. Also it is HOT there in the middle of July. 10KLF has less than a quarter the size of Bonnaroo, just the right amount of people I think.

http://www.bonnaroo.com/

There are so many other festivals I'm sure people can enlighten you on. But those are the two I'm most familiar with. Both of them are relaxed in terms of law enforcement which is always a good thing.

Another one I enjoyed in '05 was Wakarusa in Kansas. I know in '06 they had a huge police sting that left a bad taste in many peoples' mouths but I heard '07 was much better.

http://www.wakarusa.com/

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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584790 - 11/01/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Shambhala!

If you buy your ticket very soon (I was told they start selling them around the start of November, they cost $105. If you wait till a few months before the festival it will cost you around $180.

It is during August and goes from Wednesday to Monday afternoon. There isn't as much music till Friday day but it's still an amazing atmosphere. '07 was my first year and I am already hooked. I would quit my current job in a heartbeat or cancel any previous plans so I could go.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: Adom]
    #7584792 - 11/01/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Have any thoughts on next summer :bigjoint:




Phil & Friends summer tour and Phish reunion concert at Alpine Valley, baby.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #7584800 - 11/01/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm going to do the Landscaping/Fertility/Seed Warehouse thing one more year here, I'm planning on getting out much more next summer, Red Rocks smells like a winner, I haven't been in far too long. I'm thinking on 10k also, hopefully it'll happen.

What the fuck? Phish rumors again? Are you serious or wishful thinking?

Les Claypool needs to be out and about next summer


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: Adom]
    #7584802 - 11/01/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Cool, this is such valuable info.  I'm so excited about having lots of things to look forward to this summer; just gotta save the $$.  :grin: I prefer fresh food so I'll probably bring my own in a cooler, and as for psychedelics, I prefer to have my own also, but with money available in case I run into something I don't have. 

I am getting so PUMPED!  It makes me want to work extra hours at work just so I can get more money saved for more fun.  :smile: 

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If you are willing to sell water, drinks, beer, sandwiches, homeade art stuff for awhile when there you can pay for costs and meet cool people while there but it cuts into your free time also.





Hmm...interesting...what price would bottles of water, beer and sandwiches go for?  I don't want to rip people off or anything.  I just had an idea that I could perhaps sell fresh fruit juices.  I'll be getting a juicer soon.  But do they have places to "plug in?"


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584814 - 11/01/07 05:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't count on plug ins.. Beers usually go 2 for 5$ if they are micros or imports. Domestics a buck and waters a buck. Just add in some change for youself for keeping them cold and getting them there. Most people buy them out of convience and have money, they know they are buying marked up products... Just don't over do it, you have to be a sales person in a way, just standing with a cooler usually doesn't sell much.

Specialty foods go for 5$-10 it all depends, you could scout the grounds before setting up shop and see what people are paying... Only problem is the best times to sell are when all the good seats are being taken or all the people are leaving the big shows... All the good timing for selling make you miss good parts of the concerts...


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584820 - 11/01/07 05:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Good beer you can sell for $3 a bottle or offer two for $5. Water is typically sold for a dollar. The juice idea isn't too bad. Maybe having the option of rum would make them sell faster.

In some cases you have to be kind of discrete about selling things if you aren't an official vendor. Selling alcohol can be especially risky.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: Adom]
    #7584825 - 11/01/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think my first few festivals I will just try and soak in as much as I can, without feeling the need to sell anything. Then maybe as I get more accustomed to the atmosphere, maybe I'll take some time to sell stuff.

What's the best place to camp at a festival? Should you get there early? Do you ever get searched coming in? Are most festivals 3 days?


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #7584827 - 11/01/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Bring a back of aspirin and run around yelling bomb ass rolls!!!!


works everytime


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: Adom]
    #7584833 - 11/01/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Phish rumors again? Are you serious or wishful thinking?





Wishful thinking, just as a Phil summer tour is wishful thinking. Let's go to 10KLF. They already set the dates--July 23-26 '08.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #7584838 - 11/01/07 05:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Good beer you can sell for $3 a bottle or offer two for $5.  Water is typically sold for a dollar.  The juice idea isn't too bad.  Maybe having the option of rum would make them sell faster.





Excellant!  You're right, it probably would. :grin:  Soo...looks like I would either have to lug a bunch of fruit and a battery operated juicer with me, or juice everything at home and just bring along, which wouldn't be as fresh...

I'm sure I'll figure something out.  Rum...mmmm...What other liquors go well with fruit?  I'm not well versed on liquor.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584843 - 11/01/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You'll get searched half-assed. You are going to have 3 days of gear, use your head and don't have a bowl torching with open beers and you'll be fine.

KC has brought up a good issue, you can get all your stuff taken and even get fined for selling stuff with out being a vendor.

I personally have a job and haven't even tried to sell stuff in years.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: Adom]
    #7584846 - 11/01/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Bring a back of aspirin and run around yelling bomb ass rolls!!!!


works everytime




That reminds me...that is pretty obvious, but anything I should LOOK OUT for at a festival?


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584851 - 11/01/07 05:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's usually good to get there early. With 10KLF you get your pick of camp site so it's good to get there early. At Bonnaroo they tell you where to camp and really cram you in. They do "search" your car, basically take a quick peak. They're mostly looking for glass bottles, which are not allowed but lots of people disregard that rule.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584861 - 11/01/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Anything with alcohol in it at 3 am in hippie heaven.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: Adom]
    #7584863 - 11/01/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I doubt I'll have to sell anything.  I have a steady job and can be prepared for this.  Maybe the fresh fruit juices and rum will be for me and friends.  :tongue2:


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    #7584868 - 11/01/07 05:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Early as in a 'day' early? Or earlier that day?


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584881 - 11/01/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

They tell you when it will open so it doesn't hurt to try and get there a couple hours before it opens to get in line early in the morning. You'll end up in a long line of cars but it's worth the extra effort.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584883 - 11/01/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Can you judge a thug?  Can you read shady eyes... I will admit I've been minorly burned by lot-scum but I was half tossed when it happened.  Don't buy pressed pills, know the sheets on tour if you are looking for LSD, mushrooms should be easy to spot, pot also, white powders are always sketchy unless you can spot fine cocaine from miles away :smile:

KC, count me in for 10k.... I'm heavily considering the voyage to jazz fest.


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    #7584889 - 11/01/07 05:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You should consider Chicago's Jazz Fest or Blues Fest. I've never been but everyone tells me it's a great time. We can stay with the Jew.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584895 - 11/01/07 05:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You have to realise the mass amounts of festival goers that live near by and have jobs... They aren't going to take an extra day off... A lot of people are traveling and can't make it early.. Traffic gets backed up terribley at odd times and it's hard to guess what'll take to get in... Usually traffic has been fun for me but I never got into 8 hour nightmares unless I was going home and went thru Chicago.

I'm still pround I was one of the first 100 cars at the first bonnaroo


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    #7584902 - 11/01/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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You should consider Chicago's Jazz Fest or Blues Fest.  I've never been but everyone tells me it's a great time.  We can stay with the Jew.




:yesnod:

Dates? That sounds Rad.


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    #7584907 - 11/01/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm still pround I was one of the first 100 cars at the first bonnaroo




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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584918 - 11/01/07 05:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

just be low key
have fun
bot dont make yourself an obvious center of drunen or other intoxicated atention.
at the oregon country fair this past summer, i saw a guy get shook down and man handeled by the owner of the farm we where campig on. the guy was i guess just smoking out i public on the main drd wit his hug zip and the farer dude rolling by on his golf cart just pounced on this guy with his goldent retrever (not literaly) but he did grab him and drag him to the porta potty and make hm depoit his stash, the hard way. he let the guy stay but he checked back on them again im sure.

as for me i had a well wooded spot with tapestries and tents covering my doings so i was in the clear. dont be disrespectful and try to stay in your own movie :tripping:


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    #7584932 - 11/01/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure of exact dates but Blues fest is always around Memorial Day at the start of summer and Jazz Fest is always around Labor Day at the end of summer. The quality of acts is always A+.

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    #7584933 - 11/01/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

We sat at the gate behind 60-70 others & wondered, WTF? Why isn't this moving ? Then a cop came and said we were far to early and would be there for 10 hours. A few minutes later some bum came by looking for a ticket, said he had 150$ and that is what we had payed, we talked a bit and smoked a bowl, he said he had 150$ for the entire show... We sold the ticket for 75$, wonder if he was full of it? Who cares... Shortly after we started creeping in and arrived in what now is the park area, right beside mainstage. All the tents were open and only the mainstage had fences and security, total free-for all.


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    #7584941 - 11/01/07 05:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Not sure of exact dates but Blues fest is always around Memorial Day at the start of summer and Jazz Fest is always around Labor Day at the end of summer. The quality of acts is always A+.

Is it summer yet?




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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7584969 - 11/01/07 05:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh...what are some of the festivals you guys like to go to? 

Like...the ones you wouldn't want to miss.



theres too amny, and depending on how comited you are on getting there.
iv really wanted to go to shwagstock in Missuri

bonnaroo, and other big fests liek that dont really intise me.

burning man, tho big still looks liek an amazing experience, i would love to do that

reggae on the rive aka 'reggae rising" was aand maybe still is one of the funnest west coast festivals. i neglected to go this year cus of money constraints.
but i have had loads of fun there up in humbolt county :grin:


and the oregon country fair is , ithink, above and beond what most any festival can promise. you get an amaing atmosphrer. tons of people in all shapes sizes colors and from backrounds. crazy sense of reclance abondon, sureal setting and above all safty and kind hearted staff.


i would highly sujest the oregon county rair. good vibe orgazam country style :gd_icon:


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7585190 - 11/01/07 06:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Burning Man is another one you should consider. I've never been there but my friend went this past summer and it was a life changing experience for him. He can't stop talking about it. Sounds like its way more surreal than any of the above-mentioned festivals.

http://www.burningman.com/


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7585242 - 11/01/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'd suggest planning your travels around a geographic location; NE, Midwest, Westcoast.  That way you won't have to drive too far to get to the next one and you'll be able to hit the smaller ones, which I prefer because they're so cozy.  Just check tour schedules of the bands and you can get an idea of where all you'd like to go.  It's a little habit-forming. :wink:  I'd rather hit five festies than blow all my $$ at the same place.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #7585245 - 11/01/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

haha...yeah, I've always wanted to go to Burning Man!  But SHIT, where I'm at that would be a 3 week vacation at least, a week to drive out there, a week of having fun, and then a week back.  I would definitely need a partner to share in the fun were I to go. 

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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7585309 - 11/01/07 07:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Okay, as soon as Burning Man tickets go on sale, I'm going to get one, therefore propelling myself onwards and making it priority to plan and go.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7585468 - 11/01/07 08:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My friend went there not knowing what to expect. He dressed like normal and felt like he stuck out like a sore thumb. So he borrowed someone's tu tu and wore that the rest of the time. At Burning Man everybody is the show.









































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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #7585516 - 11/01/07 08:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD

I'm going. I'm getting myself a ticket for my birthday, in January. Maybe sooner. Hopefully they won't be sold out by then, as the actual event isn't until August.

I am so...wow. The more I read (I've been reading reports on BM's website and everything they have on there) the more I realize just how freeing this will be. I even read a report about open and brazen nudity. Freedom of the self. That's what I seek. I am going and that's that. It will be a total experiment in self-reliance. How liberating.

Hopefully I can find a friend to come with. I hate to say it, but in my mind Burning Man is the only festival I really want to go to now, heh.

8 days surviving in an alien land full of sensory delights not yet imagined...fuck yes.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: MOTH]
    #7586698 - 11/02/07 06:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm so in.


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Re: Basic festival knowledge [Re: Adom]
    #7586822 - 11/02/07 07:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

camp bisco for... i don't know. i just can't imagine not seeing what the next one will be like.

other than that the only festival i've really wanted to go to is mutant fest.

edit: don't trust anyone trying to sell you drugs at festivals, especially not anyone over the age of 25


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