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InvisibleJack Albertson
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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: fake estate]
    #7587282 - 11/02/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i already posted but i have another reason for living,to keep the counter culture alive. I plan on passing my views on to my children so that they will know the truth about life and the society we live in.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7588621 - 11/02/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You are wonderful. :heartpump:

I realized that life is truly unbounded and blissful when we stop separating it from death. When we choose understanding instead of fearing or resenting. It's all as finite or infinite as we allow it to be, or as we let ourselves perceive from it. Also the amount of joy that we feel depends exclusively on how much we open up. :yinyang: I love this life and I find myself, more than often, feeling mesmerized by the manner in which everything connects and flows.

I live for being with you :sunny: and sharing this experience together, because it's what I want and it's what I find joy in.
I live because it feels good and because there are so many things to do around here, so many things that I want to show you and do with you and to you. :yesnod:
And besides those reasons that can be somewhat put into words, there are so many others that are so intense and are only to be felt and simply experienced. :heart:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7590333 - 11/03/07 07:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the replies everyone, especially you, MT. :hug: :inlove:

I've really enjoyed reading. :smile:

I live for being held prisoner. :smirk: :yesnod:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7592869 - 11/03/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, potent ass posts.
Thanks everyone who contributed.
I live to lucid dream. I live to serve my higher power.


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“Without disturbing anyone, I will choose My moment.”
I have seen the light.

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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Icelander]
    #7593081 - 11/03/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I live for the psychedelic experience. I am trying to find it without the psychedelics now. It's not easy is what I have found out. Most of the cultural things that are supposed to make life worthwhile do not do it hardly at all for me. So I'm kind of in limbo these days. It's uncomfortable.




Hey, I hear ya. What is uncomfortable for me is that all of my intellectually spiritual identity is rapidly vanishing. Almost suddenly, I am sounding like a Zen Buddhist. I don't even like the Japanese aesthetic! I wore aCeltic cross around my neck Halloween, but it was more for the Celtic sensibility than the Christian virtue of self-sacrifice. I see the cross as the crucifixion of the ego (Iesus) against the infinite backdrop of Eternity (God), but this seems no different to me now than the ego and the Clear Light in a Buddhist idiom. Iesus saves all right, but only through the Teaching that Eternity alone is Eternal. This Teaching is sure to kill the ego and all its fantasies of personal immortality. We can relax, it's OK to die. It's not suffocation - that was birth! In death, there's no need to breath. It is the Kumbhaka (breathing retention) between the Puraka (inbreath) and Rechaka (outbreath). Eternal Moment. Can you feel me?

Is this psychedelic (mind-manifesting) to you? It's way beyond the vaulted cathedrals of bumble-bee droning eye-balled kaleidoscopes of iridescent light at this stage. It's more about being riveted to the here & now like those early acid trips where you sat in the same place for hours in real time, only now one can move about freely. So it's more Sahaj than Nirvikalpa, less rigid, more fluid. It's more Awareness that life and death occur with every inspiration-expiration - that death is no more than an expiration that is simply not followed by an inhalation. Liberation says "Fear not." What sayest thou?



"First, I was iridescent...Then I became transparent...Finally I was gone......"
- Blows Against the Empire


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7593088 - 11/03/07 11:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

taking the time to see wonder in another eye


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I have considered such matters.

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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Cherk]
    #7593314 - 11/04/07 01:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

and my "days on the town"
hollering time on the milk box
when I come back pretty sure im the only person convinced that im not jesus or not convinced that i am

haha look at that play of words
no Phd gonna teach you that
that pure might and anger son


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I have considered such matters.

SIKE


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7593515 - 11/04/07 05:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

fireworks_god said:
Thanks for the replies everyone, especially you, MT. :hug: :inlove:

I've really enjoyed reading. :smile:

I live for being held prisoner. :smirk: :yesnod:




Ohh
That's a good and wise choice. :smirk:
I live to make you my prisoner! :heartpump:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #7593848 - 11/04/07 09:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think with age Markos, if one keeps looking, there comes a full grokking of the transient nature of material manifestation including the material self and mind. Everything of importance (for oneself) is within the self.

I have also found myself looking at things in the "plain style" Rather than searching for Nirvana or Enlightenment I seek to be fully relaxed in my body and mind.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Icelander]
    #7593856 - 11/04/07 09:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think what you're talking about, Icelander, is more of a full time meditation than a desperate and eager grasping for escape or transcendence. Relaxation is the key in this, otherwise the mind quickly takes over and is playing games with YOU.


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7593872 - 11/04/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yes. Hard to do but IMO the only realistic goal for me.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Icelander]
    #7593920 - 11/04/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I live for the pursuit of knowledge and the improvement of myself every day.

I live to make myself happy.


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Icelander]
    #7594200 - 11/04/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Rather than searching for Nirvana or Enlightenment I seek to be fully relaxed in my body and mind.




Haha. That is Nirvana. To achieve this state takes a lot of hard work and requires uprooting many deeply rooted things we have in our mind. In fact, this is what meditation is actually for (as taught by the Buddha). Mindfulness is observing minds attention so that you can see clearly when the mind is not in a relaxed state. For example, if anger arises in you it is helpful to understand you are angry. If you aren't mindful of your present mental state, then you are a slave to its afflictions.

Oh btw, someone said that attachment is the cause of suffering. That is not it. Attachment/clinging is the result of craving. Craving is the source of our suffering. Without craving we have full loving acceptance of the present moment; complete relaxation. Of course, this is just the mundane description.


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As the life of a candle,
my wick will burn out.
But, the fire of my mind
shall beam into infinite.



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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Icelander]
    #7594293 - 11/04/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've noticed that even within the Buddhist idiom, Japanese Buddhism, Zen in particular, has an attitude closer to your notion of 'relaxation' than Indian or Tibetan Buddhism. In those, it seems, there is more of an emphasis on unusual conditions of everyday mind and less an appreciation for simple sensual awareness of the Present. I've always felt that my moment-to-moment awareness should feel as densely mental as those first trips, when the very air was suffused with 'Mind' and it was almost tangible, like moving through a much denser medium than air, perhaps sentient Clear Light. I wonder if I've been 'stuck' in the 'then there is no mountain' stage for decades, and now I've entered the 'then there is' stage.

I'm an INTP type and Sensing is an inferior function relative to Intuition. I have always done work with my hands to balance my ego out between Sensing-Intuition, but now, with the increased realization of a needlessness for intellectualization, there seems to be yet another imbalance between the Thinking-Feeling axis of my ego. Like my Lady, it has been ideas that evoke Feelings more than sensate existence. It's not that I (or we) cannot appreciate nature and art, we can and do, but we are wired for different tendencies. I have queried my Lady about divesting myself of my library (she has her own), but she strongly vetoed the notion.

I might look like a middle-aged man who simply gardens and tends his pool, but its all Zen to me. The plants and lawn are like a Bonzai tree's relationship with its gardner, and the pool is like a Zen rock garden but the ripples of water are more impermanent than the raked rows of pebbles. When my mind is crystal clear, so is the pool :smile:



There seems to be a new relationship for me between 'Space' (the Blue prayer flag) and 'Earth, Water, Fire and Air' (Yellow, Green, Red and White flags) which exist in Space. Perhaps my spirituality has begun to be less focused on the Nirvanic and more accepting of the Samsaric. Hopefully this translates more into a better balance in the detachment-attachment dynamic that constellates around me. I'm wound pretty tightly, and I surely could learn to "relax."

Peace.


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #7594367 - 11/04/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Doing what one does is enough. Tending this or that or climbing the mountain are the same to me. This is a big change in thinking for me.

I could definitely make good use of that pool. Sweet!:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Icelander]
    #7594545 - 11/04/07 01:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Anytime you want to pass through the Sunshine State, feel free to stay over, perhaps on the way to Key West. The pool temp is a 'cool' 80 degrees F., but we had a cold snap last night and the air temp dropped to 65 degrees! :grin: The humidity hit an amazing low of 37% which is unbelievable since it is often in the 90+% range. Humidity is currently at 51% and we opened the windows for the first time today since last March.

We have no mountains to climb, but given the above info, it's a good thing that repairing and replacing wood-rot is one of my past-times. Shoot, I haven't swum in the ocean (maybe 4 or 5 miles to the beach) in 11 years. Couldn't care less and I used to scuba dive. Weird. I think we're not necessarily more Enlightened, I think we're just getting old! :tongue:


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #7594690 - 11/04/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think we're not necessarily more Enlightened, I think we're just getting old! :tongue:


You've touched a hot spot here. I am thinking through just this question these days. I'll have to get back to you on it.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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