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psyka
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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Boundless]
#7584385 - 11/01/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Becoming more aware is understanding we have sight, smell, taste, hearing, touch, and thoughts. It is also understanding we do not own these things, you never asked for them to be there; they're just there. If these things are not mine, then its also true that the organs that facilitate these things are not mine as well. The only way I can justify them being mine, is if I somehow take them personally and identify with these things, which leads to many conditions such as depression (also feeling ecstatic), religious fanaticism, and other states of self-delusion. It is because we take things personally that we crave for worldly experience to quench our thirst for existence. It is also because we take things personally that we crave for non-existence in states of suffering. It is this thirst for existence and non-existence that keeps us in limbo, away from penetrating the ultimate truth, which is that everything is void of substance... like a lump of foam or an elaborate magic trick. The reason it is void of substance, is because there is no ownership to be found in anything; no being, no self-hood, just a dance of emptiness. Everything changes like the clouds.
If one does not take anything personally, satisfaction arises... relief emerges. After relief, there is joy, and after that joy there is mental collectedness, serenity, and insight yoked together as one. In fully understanding the impermanence of all things, we can fully appreciate the mysterious depth of reality by sitting back and observing without being attached and corrupting our view by our clinging to it.
This gives you a greater sense of self responsibility. By not trying to control, and allowing to be, you learn how to redirect your choices in a skillful, wholesome manner.
-------------------- As the life of a candle, my wick will burn out. But, the fire of my mind shall beam into infinite.

Edited by psyka (11/01/07 03:08 PM)
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Lion
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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: psyka]
#7584436 - 11/01/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes.
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery



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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Boundless]
#7584457 - 11/01/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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one must remove all obstacles to living a perfect life.
   
I could almost take you seriously until I saw this. Thanks for the chuckle.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Crystal G



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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Boundless]
#7584544 - 11/01/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I haven't found anything worth dying for.
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EternalCowabunga
Being of Great Significance



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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Crystal G]
#7584642 - 11/01/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I live for the pursuit of truth and knowledge and to find a path beyond mere animal impulse of eat, sleep, fuck
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Veritas

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I live because I'm interested. I want to see what happens! 
I also live for the many pleasures available through my intellect, my senses and connections with others.
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Grok
Has Been a Bad Boy



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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Crystal G]
#7584765 - 11/01/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had a bunch to say but Icelander's bit just about sums me up perfectly. Lately I've found myself in more or less of a perpetual mid-life crisis. Society and culture have nothing to offer that would ever fulfill me on a deep level, and I'm past the point where I could fool myself into believing otherwise.
I also feel like the psychedelic experience, and sharing it with people I know and love, is a staple of my life. Unfortunately within our culture there is no outlet for this passion of mine to take root and grow. Having gone through the justice system for psychedelics was very discouraging for me as well. I don't know though, psychedelics gave me a lot of hope about a brighter reality, that is perhaps false or at least unrealistic. "False hope is worse than slammed dope." I think this has happened to a lot of people.
It all just seems so pointless and futile at times. I feel so out of place in the world, especially among my generation. When I'm in 'normal' social situations I feel like all my interaction is forced. I like to get away from people but after awhile of that I get lonely and feel like I'm missing something. In fact most of my life, I felt like I was always missing something, and that I'm not really 'alive'. The antithesis of this condition for me has been DMT. I believe it can take you to the destination of human consciousness/spirituality, but it won't keep you there. I think this is true of all psychedelics to some degree. So here I am as well trying to find the psychedelic mindset without psychedelics.
I run goddamn circles in my mind, always ending up back in that place where I just want everything to end and nobody to notice and to not have any memory of any of this ever happening. Death. I yearned for it so much and for so long that during one rather immense, over the top trip, I got it. And then I realized that I didn't want to die, and I fought and pleaded and to be allowed to live, I promised that I would be happy, and I was so fucking happy. But the epiphanies get hazy, time goes on, and I'm back to square one again. I don't really want to die. But I don't want to live my whole life feeling like this either - it is a fear that outweighs my fear of death a thousandfold. I have an 'ideal' life...born into a wealthy family, young, great body good looks and kickass health, I can do anything I set my mind to and have a ton of options available to me, yet all of that seems meaningless to me, and the majority of the time I spend in discontent and depression. Ugh.
What do I live for? Nothing worthy of mention, at least for now.
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We all are being murdered by a similar process Whether you work at the candy store or slave at the office The purpose of our life is just to serve the economy They misinform our minds to paint a picture of harmony But if you listenin, you know that shits out of tune Cuz the function of our life is just to work and consume Fuck reachin out to help the next, there ain't any room Just close your eyes and block your ears and march to your doom
-------------------- Entropy is increasing. To send me a PM, go to my journal
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Huehuecoyotl
Fading Slowly


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I live for the next day.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery



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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Grok]
#7585124 - 11/01/07 06:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grok said: I had a bunch to say but Icelander's bit just about sums me up perfectly. Lately I've found myself in more or less of a perpetual mid-life crisis. Society and culture have nothing to offer that would ever fulfill me on a deep level, and I'm past the point where I could fool myself into believing otherwise.
I also feel like the psychedelic experience, and sharing it with people I know and love, is a staple of my life. Unfortunately within our culture there is no outlet for this passion of mine to take root and grow. Having gone through the justice system for psychedelics was very discouraging for me as well. I don't know though, psychedelics gave me a lot of hope about a brighter reality, that is perhaps false or at least unrealistic. "False hope is worse than slammed dope." I think this has happened to a lot of people.
It all just seems so pointless and futile at times. I feel so out of place in the world, especially among my generation. When I'm in 'normal' social situations I feel like all my interaction is forced. I like to get away from people but after awhile of that I get lonely and feel like I'm missing something. In fact most of my life, I felt like I was always missing something, and that I'm not really 'alive'. The antithesis of this condition for me has been DMT. I believe it can take you to the destination of human consciousness/spirituality, but it won't keep you there. I think this is true of all psychedelics to some degree. So here I am as well trying to find the psychedelic mindset without psychedelics.
I run goddamn circles in my mind, always ending up back in that place where I just want everything to end and nobody to notice and to not have any memory of any of this ever happening. Death. I yearned for it so much and for so long that during one rather immense, over the top trip, I got it. And then I realized that I didn't want to die, and I fought and pleaded and to be allowed to live, I promised that I would be happy, and I was so fucking happy. But the epiphanies get hazy, time goes on, and I'm back to square one again. I don't really want to die. But I don't want to live my whole life feeling like this either - it is a fear that outweighs my fear of death a thousandfold. I have an 'ideal' life...born into a wealthy family, young, great body good looks and kickass health, I can do anything I set my mind to and have a ton of options available to me, yet all of that seems meaningless to me, and the majority of the time I spend in discontent and depression. Ugh.
What do I live for? Nothing worthy of mention, at least for now.
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We all are being murdered by a similar process Whether you work at the candy store or slave at the office The purpose of our life is just to serve the economy They misinform our minds to paint a picture of harmony But if you listenin, you know that shits out of tune Cuz the function of our life is just to work and consume Fuck reachin out to help the next, there ain't any room Just close your eyes and block your ears and march to your doom
Thanks for posting such an honest report. Sometimes for myself I find it difficult to admit that things aren't all honky dory.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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PhanTomCat
Teh Cat....



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I just live....  No need to pick a certain thing to hold up as a reason for my continuing drive for this journey.... Not saying that won't change, but that is my answer right now....
>^;;^<
-------------------- I'll be your midnight French Fry.... "The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...." >^;;^<
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fake estate
didgin it out


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7585334 - 11/01/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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what were you born for?
-------------------- eat more algae.
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mikebart101
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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: fake estate]
#7585385 - 11/01/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like putting a smile on people's faces; making them forget about responsibility and getting them to just fucking concentrate on the moment at hand; being happy.
I think I would die for that. If people would go to my funeral and others, smiling and telling jokes of old times, that'd be the day.
-------------------- So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
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Mr_DeeMsTer
Mystic

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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Boundless]
#7585560 - 11/01/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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trying to get laid. once that happens i dont care if i die.
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AnarchoTrip
Young Blood



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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Mr_DeeMsTer]
#7585585 - 11/01/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i don't want to die afraid of death.
i'm living my life (a combination of multiple activities, thoughts, emotions, passions, choices), hopefully, to ensure this.
-------------------- YIPPIE!
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cellardoor
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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: AnarchoTrip]
#7585820 - 11/01/07 10:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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its hard to connect with others who are so wrapped up in their lives in this reality, but i loathe this isolation. at least i am not alone in feeling this way, thank you icelander and grok.
-------------------- "If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, infinite."~William Blake
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PhanTomCat
Teh Cat....



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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: fake estate]
#7586126 - 11/01/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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fake estate said: what were you born for?
I suspect, most like everyone else's reason for being born.... To experience a unique perspective thru these eye's P.O.V..... 
So far, the fit seems to be perfect.... 
>^;;^<
-------------------- I'll be your midnight French Fry.... "The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...." >^;;^<
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soldatheero
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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7586307 - 11/02/07 12:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I live because of the fact im alive.
-------------------- ..and may the zelda theme song be with you at all times, amen.
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Boots
Disenchanted


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: Boundless]
#7586829 - 11/02/07 08:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I live to be happy.
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sucklesworth
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fake estate
didgin it out


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Re: What Do You Live For? [Re: cellardoor]
#7587230 - 11/02/07 10:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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cellardoor said: its hard to connect with others who are so wrapped up in their lives in this reality, but i loathe this isolation. at least i am not alone in feeling this way, thank you icelander and grok.
right on...often i find my bouts of depression stem from other people around me..i guess in a way i feel sorry for them for still being a cog in the machine..
then one day i went down to breakfast one day to have a bowl of cereal, sat down at the table and ate...2 house flies were on the window trying desperately to get outside..flying into the corners, crawling all around the window...i wanted so badly to help those damn flies
but i know the second i went to touch them to move them in the right direction they would flee in fear, if i spoke to them they would likely not understand my beliefs...i had a weird sense of being wash over myself as i sat there with a spoonful of coco crispies in my mouth
i finally realized that at times it is reasonable to try and help certain people achieve higher levels of enlightenment...but all in all i cant keep trying to show people that there is more to life than reality tv, shit you buy at the mall, sleek cars, and alcohol...
this realization, along with joining this forum, has alleviated a lot of my terrible feelings of isolation and disconnect from a majority of drone humans
-------------------- eat more algae.
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