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Cameron
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(Another) Possible Cyanescens ID Request...Please Bear With Me
#7582441 - 10/31/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright, this is my first time posting, and my first ID request. I'm sorry for adding to the already huge number of Cyan ID threads, but I'm torn over these mushrooms I found earlier today - they seem to check out, but there are a few discrepancies that surely only an experienced hunter will be able to see past (I have no desire to die today. Dieing by mushrooms would be a pretty lame way to go, anyways).
Habitat: Found among blackberry bushes, in soil with wood debris, below Alder trees - near a stream (about 15 feet away).
Gills: Light brown (beige brown?), attached.
Stem: Very light, white or near it when found; slightly darker now. Bruises purplish-blue, especially near the bottom (most were bluish at the bottom immediately after I picked them). Fibrous, hollow.
Cap: Light caramel brown, slightly darker in the middle, lightening towards the edges on most of them. Mildly to moderately wavy. 4-10 cm in diameter.
Spore print: I'm having a bit of trouble with the spore print. I've tried a few different varieties of paper for upwards of four hours. Attached is what appears to be a white/beige spore print on blue construction paper. I'll post more spore prints as I'm able to collect them... (and I am aware that the spore print is the most important identifying feature, but I am anxious. I'm also hoping that the fact that these appear to be bruising blue will give me some assurance that they aren't a poisonous species)
Bruising: Stem appears to bruise a purplish blue, especially near the base.
Location: Found in the Pacific North West - Vancouver Island.
Scent: As far as scent goes, I can't distinguish it from most other mushrooms I've smelled. It smells earthy, like a mushroom.
It's also got white maggot type worms throughout it, and the base of the stem is encompassed with what appears to be a white, cotton like material (I'm sorry I don't know any of the scientific terms, but I'm trying).
So, what do you guys think?





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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: (Another) Possible Cyanescens ID Request...Please Bear With Me [Re: Cameron]
#7582494 - 10/31/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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These mushrooms are too large to be Psilocybe cyanescens.
You have either Lepista nuda or one of the purple Cortinarius species.
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/clitocybe_nuda.html (A good edible) http://www.mushroomexpert.com/cortinarius_iodes.html (Maybe poisonous)
The first picture really looks like Lepista nuda, a good edible. And the light colored spore print seems to confirm that ID. However I worry about the brown stains on the stem, are they cortina remnants?
In the second picture the gills look a little brownish. Suspicious.
In the third picture the gills look very brown, a Cortinarius for sure. Which makes me think maybe all of them are the possibly poisonous cort species.
A good spore print will tell for sure. Do it on tinfoil so you can see it no matter what color it is.
In any case, it is not active.
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Cameron
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Re: (Another) Possible Cyanescens ID Request...Please Bear With Me [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7582529 - 10/31/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: These mushrooms are too large to be Psilocybe cyanescens.
I was hesitant to post in the first place because of their size, I guess I was hoping the blue/purple bruising would indicate another active species (not that I'm only interested in magics - I enjoy cooking with mushrooms as well).
You have either Lepista nuda or one of the purple Cortinarius species. http://www.mushroomexpert.com/clitocybe_nuda.html (A good edible) http://www.mushroomexpert.com/cortinarius_iodes.html (Maybe poisonous) The first picture really looks like Lepista nuda, a good edible. And the light colored spore print seems to confirm that ID. However I worry about the brown stains on the stem, are they cortina remnants?
I don't think they are, but I'm hardly qualified.
In the second picture the gills look a little brownish. Suspicious. In the third picture the gills look very brown, a Cortinarius for sure. Which makes me think maybe all of them are the possibly poisonous cort species.
In the third picture, the gills appear browner than they actually are, due to a trick of the light (I was holding it at a bad angle). I shouldn't have included that one.
A good spore print will tell for sure. Do it on tinfoil so you can see it no matter what color it is.
Tinfoil! I haven't heard of using that. Great bit of advice; I'll do that right away. Thanks Alan, you've been a huge help.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: (Another) Possible Cyanescens ID Request...Please Bear With Me [Re: Cameron]
#7582566 - 10/31/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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> In the third picture, the gills appear browner than they actually are
Ok, you probably have some good edibles then. The spore print should turn out to be a cream to whiteish-lilac color.
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