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i mean theres still no reason why any of us should have even a beer gut.
There's some medical evidence (and more is being found all the time) that some people just naturally lean toward being heavy and others lean toward being skinny.
I don't think anyone can be blamed. I'm sure most fat people hate being fat and even after lifelong struggles never get a handle on it no matter how much they want to.
I'm in killer shape now, but when I was a kid, I was chunky, and lemme tell you, it sucked.
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OMFG a pink horse with a rainbow. that is strange, I know your sexuality but has Judas Priest had anything pink or any rainbows in thier concerts, and half the band is bi or gay.
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Re: Fat people. [Re: Skunk420]
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The strange thing is if you saw me in person you would NEVER suspect I enjoy taking it up the ass
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lol
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Re: Fat people. [Re: MOTH]
#7585667 - 11/01/07 09:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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NO joke
Whats that in your sig?
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Looks like a person holding a puppet. But it has metaphorical value for me.
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Re: Fat people. [Re: MOTH]
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Oh, I thought it was a woman in a banana hat holding some anthromorphic flowers
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Maybe. Maybe...
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Whee yea!
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Re: Fat people. [Re: Skunk420]
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I'm like 175cm and 80kg. I'm too skinny and need to gain muscles, fo shizzle.
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leftysurprise said: how big are you jew. ht. wt. wst. etc.?
5'9", 5'10" on a good day, not sure exactly on the weight I haven't been weighed in years, but I'll go around 230, waist is a 36. That's why I say maybe obese, I'm assuming I'm at least 30 pounds overweight, and I'm definitely fat, I won't deny that, but I'm not faaaaaaaaat.
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Re: Fat people. [Re: m.v2]
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m.v2 said: I'm like 175cm and 80kg. I'm too skinny and need to gain muscles, fo shizzle.
Metric System....
how i hate thee
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Hyper_Panda_GO said: Oh, on topic
I guess I'm slightly overweight
5'10 170ish
pft... that's not fat. i'm 5'10" and pushing 185, and i don't consider myself fat at all.
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robbyberto said: I agree with you. Its only going to get worse though. I mean there are going to be extremely advanced new technologies that are going to extend everyones life by decades, fat or not. The incentive to being skinny and healthy is going to disappear. Anyways, we shouldn't judge people on their weight. Weight doesn't make a person good or bad. Its their actions that do that.
this may be true, however, i dont care what sort of technology they come out with, none of it will counteract the damage being done to the circulatory system.
weightn doesnt make a person good or bad, however i compare it to their actions. being fat speaks volumes about a persons dedication and willpower, those weaknesses carry over to most areas of their life.
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Basically to keep your weight down you should just play some sports everyday doesn't need to be for that long and it is really fun.(I'm 6'3 200 and I play football)
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Re: Fat people. [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said: i mean theres still no reason why any of us should have even a beer gut.
There's some medical evidence (and more is being found all the time) that some people just naturally lean toward being heavy and others lean toward being skinny.
I don't think anyone can be blamed. I'm sure most fat people hate being fat and even after lifelong struggles never get a handle on it no matter how much they want to.
I'm in killer shape now, but when I was a kid, I was chunky, and lemme tell you, it sucked.
i read a study a while back that gave the statistics on about the amount of people in the world who have a legitimate thyroid/glandular problem affecting their weight, it was a ridiculously small number, a fraction of 1%.
most people's weight is directly correlated to their activity levels, diet and overall lifestyle. if your metabolism is slower than the next person, then you adjust your eating habits and exercise accordingly.
granted. many people cannot be blamed right away for being overweight due to upbringing, but after you get to a certain age, you learn whats normal, whats healthy and whats right and wrong.
being fat is not genetic(in 99.9% of people), it is a result of lifestyle. people need to stop making excuses for fat people. it only enables them. would you tell a crack head that its not his fault hes addicted to crack?
i was a fat kid too. i got rid of it and never looked back.
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Re: Fat people. [Re: jewunit]
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leftysurprise said: how big are you jew. ht. wt. wst. etc.?
5'9", 5'10" on a good day, not sure exactly on the weight I haven't been weighed in years, but I'll go around 230, waist is a 36. That's why I say maybe obese, I'm assuming I'm at least 30 pounds overweight, and I'm definitely fat, I won't deny that, but I'm not faaaaaaaaat.
haha. not "biggest loser" fat anyway.
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I'm not talking about thyroid problems. I'm talking about natural human physiological tendencies, in particular neurological configurations that up-regulate appetite and muscle efficiency and down-regulate metabolism.
These are genetic predispositions and have nothing to do with will-power. Some may not be severe enough that a little self-discipline can't overcome them, but it's far from clear that all fat people have the ability to lose weight no matter how much they want or try to.
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Researchers at Oregon Health Sciences University (OHSU) may have identified those pesky neurons, involved in appetite and metabolism control, that encourage our bodies back to our original weight no matter how much we diet.
In the latest issue of Neuron, Roger Cone, a senior scientist at the Vollum Institute at OHSU, working in collaboration with William Colmers, University of Alberta, have published their discovery of a mechanism in the brain that memorizes and regulates a person's weight. The mechanism located in the hypothalamus has been named the adipostat due to the fact that it essentially acts as a fat thermostat.
Previous studies have already shown how the brain reacts to a change in diet. "When you lose weight, the body thinks there's something wrong," said Cone. "The body initiates a number of responses to prevent you from losing weight and even to help you put weight back on. These responses include a decrease in the metabolic rate and an increase in muscle efficiency to limit energy loss."
For years, scientists have proposed the existence of an adipostat in the brain. But until now, it's mechanism has remained a mystery. Cone and Colmers, aided by an international team of scientists, have identified individual neurons within the hypothalamus with the precise properties of the long-predicted adipostat.
To find the adipostat, researchers traced the routes of two fibre pathways that appear to play a role in feeding and metabolism. Cone compares the process to tracing electrical wires in your home back to the fuse box.
One of the pathways to the adipostat, called the NPY/AGRP, stimulates feeding. The other pathway, called the MSH, inhibits feeding and is involved in the normal maintenance of metabolic rates. Cone and Colmers used miniature electrodes to identify for the first time neurons that could process information from both pathways.
While there is much more to be learned about the body's metabolism controls, this research could lead to medications that can be used to help regulate a patient's weight. For example, a dieting patient might take a drug that resets the body's adipostat to a lower level, making weight loss easier.
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Diploid said: i mean theres still no reason why any of us should have even a beer gut.
There's some medical evidence (and more is being found all the time) that some people just naturally lean toward being heavy and others lean toward being skinny.
I don't think anyone can be blamed. I'm sure most fat people hate being fat and even after lifelong struggles never get a handle on it no matter how much they want to.
I'm in killer shape now, but when I was a kid, I was chunky, and lemme tell you, it sucked.
i read a study a while back that gave the statistics on about the amount of people in the world who have a legitimate thyroid/glandular problem affecting their weight, it was a ridiculously small number, a fraction of 1%.
most people's weight is directly correlated to their activity levels, diet and overall lifestyle. if your metabolism is slower than the next person, then you adjust your eating habits and exercise accordingly.
granted. many people cannot be blamed right away for being overweight due to upbringing, but after you get to a certain age, you learn whats normal, whats healthy and whats right and wrong.
being fat is not genetic(in 99.9% of people), it is a result of lifestyle. people need to stop making excuses for fat people. it only enables them. would you tell a crack head that its not his fault hes addicted to crack?
i was a fat kid too. i got rid of it and never looked back.
What you have completely overlooked in your discourse are the psychological factors for both crack and weight. Some people use certain drugs as an escape mechanism and get addicted, some people use food to escape whatever it is they wish to escape from.
There is a saying in the sports trainer world: Once a fatty, always a fatty. Therein lies your future, judge it now as you wish.
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hummermania00 said:
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leftysurprise said:
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Diploid said: i mean theres still no reason why any of us should have even a beer gut.
There's some medical evidence (and more is being found all the time) that some people just naturally lean toward being heavy and others lean toward being skinny.
I don't think anyone can be blamed. I'm sure most fat people hate being fat and even after lifelong struggles never get a handle on it no matter how much they want to.
I'm in killer shape now, but when I was a kid, I was chunky, and lemme tell you, it sucked.
i read a study a while back that gave the statistics on about the amount of people in the world who have a legitimate thyroid/glandular problem affecting their weight, it was a ridiculously small number, a fraction of 1%.
most people's weight is directly correlated to their activity levels, diet and overall lifestyle. if your metabolism is slower than the next person, then you adjust your eating habits and exercise accordingly.
granted. many people cannot be blamed right away for being overweight due to upbringing, but after you get to a certain age, you learn whats normal, whats healthy and whats right and wrong.
being fat is not genetic(in 99.9% of people), it is a result of lifestyle. people need to stop making excuses for fat people. it only enables them. would you tell a crack head that its not his fault hes addicted to crack?
i was a fat kid too. i got rid of it and never looked back.
What you have completely overlooked in your discourse are the psychological factors for both crack and weight. Some people use certain drugs as an escape mechanism and get addicted, some people use food to escape whatever it is they wish to escape from.
There is a saying in the sports trainer world: Once a fatty, always a fatty. Therein lies your future, judge it now as you wish.
you are very wrong there my friend. i WAS a fatty. i know a good handfull of people who WERE fatties and are not anymore, for quite some time now. people can overcome their fears, weaknesses and addictions, they do all the time.
as a matter of fact, some fatties that have turned their lives around become stronger people than those who have maintained a healthy lifestyle from the start. once they see just how good you CAN and SHOULD feel, they never let themselves go back.
and i have not overlooked the psychological factors. drugs, eating, any addiction all boils down to self control, will power and the desire to want something better for yourself. some want it. some have it. some go get it. some never will. the physical aspects of it play a big part, but mentality is everything.
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