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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: Lion]
    #7582437 - 10/31/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

everytime i do salvia i encounter one of two possible entities. their are always 2 of them, twin-like. the first set look like regular people, curly hair, white t-shirt, blue jeans. they are always really happy to see me, they say "welcome back" and also seem to have an agenda, like enveloping all that is around me with their salvia essence. the second set looks like robotic aliens or something, and they always try to bring me somewhere to show me something, but the trip doesnt last long enough, and their isnt enough time, so they try and hurry. once after coming out of one of these trips, i looked at my body, and i was a brand new soul that had been placed inside my body. i looked through my eyes for the first time, and i took my first steps then also. whenerver my wife does it, the salvia always continues in teaching her "the perfect song" this stuff is strange, intimidating, though highly compelling


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: bbaeker]
    #7582477 - 10/31/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT THE FUCK! I don't even really know what just happened!!




Classic. :grin:

Don't let it scare you off. It's a vast space with lot's to explore.


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: bbaeker]
    #7582497 - 10/31/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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everytime i do salvia i encounter one of two possible entities. their are always 2 of them, twin-like. the first set look like regular people, curly hair, white t-shirt, blue jeans. they are always really happy to see me, they say "welcome back" and also seem to have an agenda, like enveloping all that is around me with their salvia essence. the second set looks like robotic aliens or something, and they always try to bring me somewhere to show me something, but the trip doesnt last long enough, and their isnt enough time, so they try and hurry. once after coming out of one of these trips, i looked at my body, and i was a brand new soul that had been placed inside my body. i looked through my eyes for the first time, and i took my first steps then also. whenerver my wife does it, the salvia always continues in teaching her "the perfect song" this stuff is strange, intimidating, though highly compelling




Care to elaborate?  This might spark my interest in Salvia again :smile:


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7582499 - 10/31/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

this sounds like my first time seriously smoking salvia (alone).
they said "we're coming to take you away!"  "yeah we're coming to get you!" as the forest exploded into my room...

the spirits are just introducing themselves.  they seem to have a rather intense sense of humor.  once they make their presence known, they will open the door, if you want :zoom:
offer up some incense to them next time. :flowers:

if you decide to keep exploring do so with reverence, and always remember the importance of set and setting.  i recommend the outdoors.


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: Lion]
    #7582739 - 11/01/07 12:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hey y'all how does DMT compare to Salvia? I might be able to get some in the not too distant future. peace =)


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7582797 - 11/01/07 01:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

less chaotic just as intense but even more amazing, by far IMHO


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7583737 - 11/01/07 11:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The first time I broke through I said "OH MY GOD!!" Over and over for two days.

Then I didn't even try it again for two years.

It's pretty scary when you know you should be someone but you don't know who and you're scrambling to get back to your body.

It's like the "Total perspective vortex" :wink:


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: El Zorro]
    #7583748 - 11/01/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's hard to remember what I felt like when I was tripping..but at least I have an idea what it felt like instead of not remembering any of it. =0


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: mentalIMAGE]
    #7585139 - 11/01/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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bbaeker said:
everytime i do salvia i encounter one of two possible entities. their are always 2 of them, twin-like. the first set look like regular people, curly hair, white t-shirt, blue jeans. they are always really happy to see me, they say "welcome back" and also seem to have an agenda, like enveloping all that is around me with their salvia essence. the second set looks like robotic aliens or something, and they always try to bring me somewhere to show me something, but the trip doesnt last long enough, and their isnt enough time, so they try and hurry. once after coming out of one of these trips, i looked at my body, and i was a brand new soul that had been placed inside my body. i looked through my eyes for the first time, and i took my first steps then also. whenerver my wife does it, the salvia always continues in teaching her "the perfect song" this stuff is strange, intimidating, though highly compelling




Care to elaborate?  This might spark my interest in Salvia again :smile:




Hi, bbaeker's wife here, to elaborate slightly.

first of all, salvia was the first herb I tried with any results.  Like that advert (which I know is an anti"drug" advert) says "Everybody has a thing, what's your thing?"  Mine is definitely Miss Salvia.  she has only a short time to attempt to teach you anything, and thus has no patience for people who are only there to screw around and "get high".  I don't say this to be rude, I say it because I have had many friends tell me of horrible trips, and yet I always have a very calm trip.  The only differences have been in the way we approach it, for the most part, although I do seem to have an affinity for this plant that many others don't seem to have.

I am a musician by nature, music has always been my solace, and the very first time I did Salvia, my entire *being* was singing.  That might sound odd, but that rolling motion that wants you lower and lower...  it's music...  it's a dance.  your body doesn't need to go with it, but if you let your essence go, the song builds.  it's very fractal in nature, the song... but every time, while there is more being added to it, it's the song of creation... it's the song that brought everything to exist.  It is the beat and melody of life.  I can't explain it much better than that, but if you want to see where Salvia will take you, and have a journey more like mine, I would suggest sitting in a softly lit room, on the floor, and approaching with respect, and an openness to learning.  It's not just something to party with.  A family member "partied" with it, and ended up on the floor.  He'd smoked it standing, and the compulsion to follow the air (that rolling motion I mentioned) knocked him right over.  A friend of mine smoked some while riding in a truck full of rowdy "high" people, (I'm sure you all know the dumb drunks from highschool to which I am referring).  He had a horrible trip because of it.

It's not something to play with, none of these herbs and other plants or chemicals are... they can work for that, but your experiences are much richer if you approach them with respect.  But you all know this right?  So I guess I'm preaching to the choir, so to speak. 

I apologize for rambling.
nbaeker, wife to bbaeker


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: bbaeker]
    #7586564 - 11/02/07 03:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

great comment, nbaeker, wife to bbaeker.
I love the shortness of the wildly intense part, but even a day later there is still some serious mental enhancement.
an hour after the intense 5 minutes, my emotional whistles are still blowing about how wierd or expanded or layered it was.


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7587488 - 11/02/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

that's really it, redgreenvines. And if you listen carefully, the imprint of it stays with you even longer, like words of a favorite teacher, or a specific conversation with a loved one. It's been over two years since I've had occasion to dally with Miss Salvia, but I still can recall exactly what happened, and go into the mindset, following the flow of her dance.

-nbaeker


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: bbaeker]
    #7587553 - 11/02/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I tried salvia for the first time this Halloween, and your reaction is starkly similar to my own. Ego loss?


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: Lion]
    #7587568 - 11/02/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:

Good stuff. I'm going to wait for my glass bong before smoking anymore. I can't break through with my pipe as the smoke is too harsh.

I had a dream last night where I was running away, then found a safe place, and took salvia. I can't remember much about it, but it was weird certainly.

I'm so tempted to mix salvia with spice, they work on different parts of the brain, so it might be totally intense, insane, and fun.


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7587632 - 11/02/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: Wandering_Yogi]
    #7587637 - 11/02/07 12:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Today my friend and I were discussing all sorts of interesting stuff, alot of which seemed to explain salvia. I've found a few very clear scientific explanations that describe why and how the salvia experience tends to come about. I'll try to elaborate a little.

I'm sure alot of you know about the String Theory, and how it states that multiple dimensions and realities exist layered on top of each other. Every salvia trip I embark on, whenever I break through, my trips always seem to encompass multiple dimensions at the same time. I will try to explain how this could possibly happen.

Take your brain, and how your brain interprets the world around you for example. You see things around you, and your brain interprets them, and then you create a perception of your world in your head. Take also a 'moment of clarity', or one of those instances where in a single second everything in the world makes sense. What happens when we try to interpret, or think about what is going on in that moment of clarity? The moment of clarity vanishes and it's hard to remember, like trying to remember a dream. That is because, in a moment of clarity, I beleive our spirits or 'selves' expand beyond our mind's capacity for interpretation, but it becomes real to us as an experience that can't be comprehended using logic.

The basis for the moment of clarity then is the self moving outside the realm of our minds capacity to interpret, and beyond to an all encompasing experience, or feeling. In the moment of clarity we simply experience reality as a form of conscienceness without interpeting every single little thing that is happening. If we did try to interpret every single little thing that was contained in a moment of all encompasing clarity, we would overload and our heads would explode. It's beyond comprehension, but it's not beyond possibly experiencing... just like salvia.

Salvia blocks messages from our senses from reaching our conscience, therefore our brains no longer have the burdon of having to 'interpret' anything around us in the physical world, effectively disolving the bounderies that hold in our 'selves' or spirits from the rest of the world around us so much so that the bounderies are completely destroyed and our spirits are able to experience every level of existence and every parallel dimension at the same time. Just like the string theory says, all the dimensions and everything overlap, so when the bounderies holding in our spirits is knocked down, our spirits don't have to travel far at all to experience every layer of reality consecutively.

After that, our brains are definately firing neurons like crazy i'd assume. But they aren't firing to interpret the world around our bodies, they are firing as the workhorse and energy behind the experience of our spirit... providing a platform for our human selves to relate to the un-comprehensible experiences that our spirits are sending back to our bodies.

That's just one interpretation... There are so many ways to look at salvia, and this was an extremely breif explanation of my interpretation. I could have worded it much better, but you guys have experienced it, so you know what i'm talking about.


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: notapillow]
    #7587842 - 11/02/07 01:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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lol
i love these salvia "omg tits FUCk SHIT!" threads :lol:


you are fine. did you see the flip book dimentinal rift vortex gizmo?




Dude i saw a vortex and felt like something/someone was pulling me into and i started screaming at the top of my lungs


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: AJ4U]
    #7587926 - 11/02/07 01:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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notapillow said:
lol
i love these salvia "omg tits FUCk SHIT!" threads :lol:


you are fine. did you see the flip book dimentinal rift vortex gizmo?




Dude i saw a vortex and felt like something/someone was pulling me into and i started screaming at the top of my lungs




I didn't really see a vortex but my ceiling went into eternity and was sort of pulling me, well I guess that's kind of a vortex eh. :wink:
Those Salvia people are so insistent upon you staying, I wonder if you  say yes to staying you go to their dimension and become one of them.  SHIT that'd be FUCKING NUTZ0RZZ!!!!1111!!1!1!!!1!!


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Re: HOLY FUCKING SHIT [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7591218 - 11/03/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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did you see the flip book dimentinal rift vortex gizmo?




Salvia 5D: (correction to image, those were 4D layers)

This is what I saw once, with vaporizing(250'C) less than a half of a gram of leaves.


Nice comment there nbaker, wife to bbaker!


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