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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery



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"To live is to battle with trolls, in the vaults of the heart and brain"
#7580024 - 10/31/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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"Fanaticism is overcompensation for doubt."
So it is with the skeptic and the true believer. It's a challenge to accept life as it is outside of our addiction to having things conform to our personal and collective comfort levels. But life will always be exactly what it is and that is where the battle comes in to this. How we interpret things makes all the difference. Good luck to all. I hope you get some good candy.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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demiu5
humans, lol


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Re: "To live is to battle with trolls, in the vaults of the heart and brain" [Re: Icelander]
#7580188 - 10/31/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe I'm reading waaaay too much into your post, but I'm pulling that 'humanity's downfall is that we have become accustomed to having everything our way' and because none of us want to adjust from having it all to being at the whim of 'nature' or life (not ourselves) and this results in what we see as a the battle or struggle.
-------------------- channel your inner Larry David
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Clean
the lense


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Re: "To live is to battle with trolls, in the vaults of the heart and brain" [Re: demiu5]
#7580907 - 10/31/07 02:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think I see what you're getting at, d, and I can agree..but will add that it seems we only believe that we should be able to "have it our way" (ie: man dominates over everything and enjoys TV and fast food while doing so) because that is what our cultural imprints dictate. We've been led to believe that we can "have it all", that our only limits are technological... we have forgotten about the shadow work that needs to be done. All issues pertaining to our inner landscape have been shoved aside in the scramble for new technology.
Of course that last sentence excludes a lot of the posters on this forum...
imo the perception of the constant battle against nature comes from man's tendency to place himself above and outside of nature, or even to see himself as a victim of nature's seemingly heartless wrath. All this comes from the idea that we are somehow separate from the grand cycle of ecosystems in which we find ourselves. Why is it that humanity can not even feel at home(ie: comfortable and at peace) on its own planet? (PM me if you want to talk about alien intervention and genetic manipulation )
i have a tendency to be pretty condemning of this phenomenon but i recognize it serves a greater purpose of precisely highlighting what the problems are. Seems like icelander has decided to give up seeing it as a problem, and more as a bend in the river of life..so to speak. 
btw, ice, did the thread title originate somewhere other than your brain?
Edited by Clean (10/31/07 02:19 PM)
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery



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Re: "To live is to battle with trolls, in the vaults of the heart and brain" [Re: Clean]
#7580976 - 10/31/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shadow work
The quote is from a most amazing trilogy by Robertson Davies, "The Depford Trilogy" (The Fifth Business-The Manticore-World of Wonders)
One of the most engrossing pieces of fiction I have ever come across. It's long and impossible to put down.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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