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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#8049201 - 02/20/08 08:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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honestly, who cares?
probably the conservative christian voters, and that's about it.
i hope this just dismantles their whole fucked agenda.
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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: Gijith]
#8049403 - 02/20/08 09:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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withheld for maximum impact.
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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: afoaf]
#8049444 - 02/20/08 09:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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afoaf said: withheld for maximum impact.
They will sell more papers now then they would have months ago. Drudge is saying that the NYT's has been sitting on it and that McCain has been in a behind the scenes battle trying to keep it from going to print.
The screwed up thing is that the NYTs endorsed McCain, at the time they had this story. They help McCain become the front runner, then they tear him down, so Huck can rise and get creamed by the Dem's.
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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#8049543 - 02/20/08 09:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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or they endorse him, so he'll be in the spotlight and will sell more newspapers for them when they run smear stories.
the media is so disgusting.
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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: kake]
#8049824 - 02/20/08 10:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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aren't endorsements typically made by the editorial staff, and news decisions made by the newspeople?
Aren't these two sepperate groups?
Is it not convievable that they weren't in cahoots?
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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: lonestar2004]
#8050021 - 02/20/08 11:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you know bush hasn't cheated on his wife as far as we know so i guess fidelity isn't all it is cracked up to be. it isn't like if we elect this person they will spend a weekend in Fiji running their government or something hilarious.
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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#8050470 - 02/21/08 03:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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gettinjiggywithit said: They help McCain become the front runner, then they tear him down, so Huck can rise and get creamed by the Dem's.
McCain needs 364 delegates to get the necessary 1,191 to receive the Republican nomination. McCain currently has four times the amount of delegates as Huckabee. Huckabee needs 986 delegates to receive the nomination, and he has 205 right now. There is only 741 delegates left to be awarded. If McCain won zero delegates going forward and Huckabee took them all, Huckabee still wouldn't have enough (numbers from NYTimes election guide), and it'd be a brokered convention...
The idea that this story is going to hurt McCain too signfigantly in the Republican primaries is pretty baseless. Even if it would, it is pretty damned impossible that it will help Huckabee enough to keep McCain from winning 364 more delegates.
The notion that this story was designed to help Huckabee win the Republican nomination is ludicrous nonsense. 
It seems pretty clear its an advance to help Obama on the whole "reforming Washington" front.
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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: fireworks_god]
#8051826 - 02/21/08 01:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think that's the notion here. The notion is that the NY Times wants the Reps to nominate a candidate they think they can take out. Not likely with this weak ass shit, all they've managed to do is beclown themselves yet again.
A few months back there was an editorial in the Times about John Podhoretz being named editor of Commentary, a magazine his father, Norman Podhoretz, founded. John Podhoretz has had his own highly successful career in journalism and yet the NY Times went all "nepotism" on his ass. Which made me laugh out loud because what Pinch Sulzburger has done to this once great paper is the strongest argument for abortion ever made.
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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: zappaisgod]
#8051856 - 02/21/08 01:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i wonder how long the paper has been sitting on this weak ass story....
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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: lonestar2004]
#8051864 - 02/21/08 01:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Apparently since December. Or 8 years, depending on how you look at it.
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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: zappaisgod]
#8052242 - 02/21/08 02:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here's how it seems to me so far.
The Times began writing the story back in the fall. They researched it like crazy. They interviewed everyone they could pin down. I'm sure they thought they were gonna nail down something concrete. 3 months later, they hadn't. And the story in other news organizations was starting to turn from "the NY Times is about to bury McCain" to "the NY Times can't get its shit together." That second quote is a headline the Times didn't want to start seeing at the top of articles and blogs, so they went to press with the mess they had.
They really fucked up. They should have ditched the whole thing or maybe put it on page 47 or something.
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