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Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma
    #7579790 - 10/31/07 08:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So I was down in DC this past weekend and happened to run into a well-connected media person, who told me flatly, unequivocally that “everyone knows” The LA Times was sitting on a story, all wrapped up and ready to go about what is a potentially devastating sexual scandal involving a leading Presidential candidate. “Everyone knows” meaning everyone in the DC mainstream media political reporting world. “Sitting on it” because the paper couldn’t decide the complex ethics of whether and when to run it. The way I heard it they’d had it for a while but don’t know what to do. The person who told me )not an LAT person) knows I write and didn’t say “don’t write about this”.

If it’s true, I don’t envy the LAT. I respect their hesitation, their dilemma, deciding to run or not to run it raises a lot of difficult journalism ethics questions and they’re likely to be attacked, when it comes out—the story or their suppression of the story—whatever they do.


I’ve been sensing hints that something’s going on, something’s going unspoken in certain insider coverage of the campaign (and by the way this rumor the LA Times is supposedly sitting on is one I never heard in this specific form before. By the way, t’s not the Edwards rumor, it’s something else.

And when my source said “everyone in Washington”, knows about it he means everyone in the elite Mainstream media, not just the LA Times, but everyone regularly writing about the Presdidential campaign knows about it and doesn’t know what to do with it. And I must admit it really is was juicy if true. But I don’t know if it’s true and I can’t decide if I think it’s relevant. But the fact that “everyone” in the elite media knew about it and was keeping silent about it, is, itself, news. But you can’t report the “news” without reporting the thing itself. Troubling!

It raises all sorts of ethical questions. What about private sexual behavior is relevant? What about a marriage belongs in the coverage of a presidential campaign? Does it go to the judgment of the candidate in question? Didn’t we all have a national nervous breakdown over these questions nearly a decade ago?

Now, as I say it’s a rumor; I haven’t seen the supporting evidence. But the person who told me said it offhandedly as if everyone in his world knew about it. And if you look close enough you can find hints of something impending, something potentially derailing to this candidate in the reporting of the campaign. Which could mean that something unspoken, unwritten about is influencing what is written, what we read.

Why are well wired media elite keeping silent about it? Because they think we can’t handle the truth? Because they think it’s substantively irrelevant? What standards of judgment are they using? Are they afraid that to print it will bring on opprobrium. Are they afraid not printing it will bring on opprobrium? Or both?

But alas if it leaks out from less “responsible” sources. then all their contextual protectiveness of us will have been wasted.

And what about timing? They, meaning the DC elite media, must know if it comes out before the parties select their primary winners and eventual nominees, voters would have the ability to decide how important they felt it to the narrative of the candidate in question. Aren’t they, in delaying and not letting the pieces fall where they potentially may, not refusing to act but acting in a different way—taking it upon themselves to decide the Presidential election by their silence?

If they waited until the nominees were chosen wouldn’t that be unfair because, arguably, it could sink the candidacy of one of the potential nominees after the nomination was finalized? And doesn’t the fact that they “all” know something’s there but can’t say affect their campaign coverage in a subterranean, subconscious way that their readers are excluded from?

I just don’t know the answer. I’m glad in a situation like this, if there is in fact truth to it, that I wouldn’t have to be the “decider”. I wouldn’t want to be in a position of having to make that choice. But it’s a choice that may well decide a crucial turning point in history. Or maybe not: Maybe voters will decide they don’t think it’s important, however juicy. But should it be their choice or the choice of the media elites? It illustrates the fact that there are still two cultures at war within our political culture, insiders and outsiders. As a relative outsider I have to admit I was shocked not just by this but by several other things “everyone” down there knows.

There seem to be two conflicting imperatives here. The new media, Web 2.0 anti-elitist preference for transparency and immediacy and the traditional elitist preference for reflection, judgment and standards—their reflection, their small-group judgment and standards. Their civic duty to “protect” us from knowing too much.

I feel a little uneasy reporting this. No matter how well “nailed” they think they have it, it may turn out to be untrue. What I’m really reporting on is the unreported persistence of a schism between the DC media elites and their inside knowlede and the public that is kept in the dark. For their own good? Maybe they’d dismiss it as irrelevant, but shouldn’t they know?

I don’t know.


http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/ronrosenbaum/2007/10/29/shocking_inside_dc_scandal_rum.php

SHOCKING
"devastating sexual scandal involving a leading Presidential candidate"

Ethical Dilemma...........


Its a Democrat.

If it were a Republican, the networks would be running with 24/7 coverage. There ARE no “Ethical Dilemmas” if it’s a Republican.


I predict its the great Black Hope Barack Obama! He cheated on his wife with a Homosexual MAN! Breaking news Obama sucks dick!


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7579835 - 10/31/07 08:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Down in my neck of the woods eh? Did you moon the white house?


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: BrAiN]
    #7579840 - 10/31/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Oh wait that wasn't you.. oops... my bad!


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: BrAiN]
    #7579949 - 10/31/07 09:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Larry Flynt, editor and publisher of Hustler magazine, just told FOX Business Network’s Neil Cavuto that he’s “hoping to expose a bombshell” that will stand “Washington and the country on its head.” Within the next week or two, he says his magazine will expose a sex scandal of huge proportions involving a prominent United States Senator. Flynt refused to comment on the Senator’s political affiliation, but alluded that he or she is a Republican.
http://rawstory.com/comments/39772.html


fuck not another republican......


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7580003 - 10/31/07 10:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm probably mccain's head photoshopped on an asian hooker's pic


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: BrAiN]
    #7580005 - 10/31/07 10:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

or

Hillary was caught in the same airport restroom as Larry Craig.

She was wearing a huge strap-on.
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/good_to_be_in_dc


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7580034 - 10/31/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Let us pray that it was all three of the leading Republican candidates together, wiping them out of the field. :hehehe:


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7580045 - 10/31/07 10:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the media hates all three of those guys. I just cant believe they would sit on it.

It has to be Obama.

The MSM will use it if he ever starts to attack Hillary.


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7580053 - 10/31/07 10:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

everyone knows that capitol hill is just one big incestuous gang-bang after hours.

they play house music, eat ecstasy, and form huge conga lines that degenerate into cuddle puddles which in turn devolve into massive orgies.

then the next day Hillary Clinton is all pissed because John McCain gave her herpes.

true story


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7580062 - 10/31/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What would be the correct label for this, vaporscandal?

When has the media worried about ethics in the past? They either have nothing, or are trying to drum up curiosity in order to sell more copies when the story finally breaks. If ethics is really involved, I would suspect that it involves the spouse of a candidate rather than a candidate directly. Maybe Bill got caught sleeping with Sharpton or something... wouldn't that be fun.


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: Seuss]
    #7580103 - 10/31/07 10:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

right

Media Ethics Dilemma....what a fucking joke. When it comes to smearing Republicans, Mainstream Journalists have the ethics of hyenas, squabbling over dead meat...

IMO the MSM is going to let the internet break the story so they don't seem like the bad guy.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7580327 - 10/31/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Giluani's blood in a goblet. :evil:


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7580382 - 10/31/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Don't worry about Rudy. He will not win the Republican nomination. he is anti-gun; pro-gay marriage; pro-abortion; and pro-illegal immigration......Now if he was running as a democrat.....


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7580425 - 10/31/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Why does he have such a lead in the polls, then? I don't see anyone else they are going to nominate, unfortunately, and there that fascist is... :shrug:


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7580434 - 10/31/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I better post a link for Zappa on the immigration issue.:grin:

Rudy Giuliani has demanded that the federal government provide Social Security, Medicaid, food stamps, and welfare to illegal immigrants.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/rwg/html/98a/lulac.html


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7580485 - 10/31/07 12:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Rudy does not have a BIG lead like Clinton (that race is over) All the republican candidates SUCK (except RP) thats why Rudy has a small temporary lead. the jesus folks (at least a third of Reps) will never vote for Rudy.


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7580549 - 10/31/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If all of this is accurate, it makes me wonder what else gets sat on, and for what reason?

I can only assume that the LAT and all print journals are motivated by increasing readership, so it seems weird that they wouldn't print such a hot story. Could the candidate in question have enough power to keep this covered up?


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7580703 - 10/31/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think Rudy'll take the whole cake in 2008. As long as he's all for the war and keeps using the phrase "9/11" about 6.5 times per minute... that's all his base cares about.


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: BrAiN]
    #7580729 - 10/31/07 01:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I dont think that is true.

If you ask the Religious Conservatives what their #1 issue is, I think nearly all of them will tell you abortion. Yes, a large percentage of the Republican party is obsessed with 9/11 and the idea that every Muslim on Earth wants to eat their children and these people will likely vote for Guliani.

But for the Jesus-Freak wing of the party, abortion is an "American Holocaust" and has to be stopped immediately at all costs. These people WILL not vote for Rudy, which would be a huge boon to the Democrats.

My best-case scenario as a rabid Democrat is that Rudy wins the nomination after Romney has spent the last two months reminding every Republican voter on the planet that "Rudy Loves Abortions", and that a large percentage of the Jesus-Freak Wing splinter off to run some ultimately futile third-party campaign with a candidate like Huckabee.

Something like that should nicely off-set the decent percentage of young Democratic voters that I expect to vote for an eventual Ron Paul third-party ticket.


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Re: Shocking Inside DC Scandal Rumor: A Media Ethics Dilemma [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7580753 - 10/31/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

honestly, I think it would be really cool to see an American election where there were 4 or 5 major candidates and the winner got only 27% of the votes. The end of bipartisan politics would be cool to see in America. Have elections be more like ordering off a menu than just making a binary choice.


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