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OfflineCrimsonClaw
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Liberty cap ID please
    #7578404 - 10/30/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Habitat: Former Cow pasture, near large river, In long grass. Chilliwack, BC

Gills: Light tan w/ faint purple (younger ones) to purplish/brown (older ones)

Stem: Thin, solid, white/tan approx. 2 or 3 mm. in Dia. Length = above 3 inches *paper is 8.5X11*

Cap: 4mm to 2cm. Conical with tit atop. many older ones expanded but tit remains. light brown fading to tan. Sticky, (layer removable)

Spore print: In the process of spore printing!

Scent: old grass

Only root had a blueish tint

I'm almost positive cluster labeled "A" are psilocybe Semilanceata
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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: CrimsonClaw]
    #7578658 - 10/30/07 10:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

looks like some libs, and some not-so libs. but unless you want to do individual Id requests for each one (please don't), you're not going to get individual answers. very hard to tell from this altitude. and even with individual pics, some will be impossible to give answers to, judging from their conditions.

but for the love of god, don't go munching them all down just because you know you have some libs in there somewhere.

better pics.


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: Wiseguy]
    #7578686 - 10/30/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I just need to know if it's possible for libs' caps to expand as they get old. Many get turned inside-out or flatten as I pick them because the cap sticks to grass. From what I have read P. Semilanceata do not expand but I was thinking along the lines that if they are picked later in the fruiting body life cycle, it is possible to observe tthe cap' expansion. Any thought??


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: CrimsonClaw]
    #7578700 - 10/30/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yes, they can expland out flatter. Although, it is also true that by that time, they will usually begin to rot or become bug-ridden to the point you won't want to comsume them.


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: jet li]
    #7578706 - 10/30/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You may have found Stropharia semiglobata.


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: jet li]
    #7578763 - 10/30/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

more pics




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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: CrimsonClaw]
    #7578795 - 10/30/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Have you been able to detect any bruising at all on the caps or anything? Liberty caps aren't notorious for blueing, but still do bruise blue often.


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: jet li]
    #7578800 - 10/30/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The removable pellicle is a good sign, by the way. With a purple brown spore print, you've got Lib, most certainly.


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: jet li]
    #7578818 - 10/30/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Only the very base of the stem has a blueish tint to it. All of the mushrooms I have found look like this picture before I pick them.
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I am going to dry this batch and and take pictures of these shroom growing in their natural habitat asap.

Thanks for all the info guys. I'm glad i got a speedy response


Edited by CrimsonClaw (10/30/07 10:48 PM)


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: CrimsonClaw]
    #7578820 - 10/30/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

broken pic. try again.


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: jet li]
    #7578828 - 10/30/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



Edited by CrimsonClaw (10/30/07 10:50 PM)


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: CrimsonClaw]
    #7578831 - 10/30/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lol


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: jet li]
    #7578832 - 10/30/07 10:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i guess i can't steal the pic from google images.... darn russian site!


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: CrimsonClaw]
    #7578835 - 10/30/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

hahaha.


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: jet li]
    #7578837 - 10/30/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, never mind posting other peoples picture for an ID on something you found. Stick with your own pictures. You want to get your mushroom IDed not a mushroom from a Russian website.


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: jet li]
    #7578847 - 10/30/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

alright. I shall delete this and start a new post once I bring my camera to where I found these suckers. I know there are cyans in the same field. And very strange tiny globular blue mushrooms.

Thanks Jet Li


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: CrimsonClaw]
    #7579138 - 10/31/07 12:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

They probably aren't cyans, if you found them in a field. Cyans grow in wood mulch. The only time they would appear to be growing from grass is when there is woody debris or wood mulch beneath the surface. Fields don't tend to hold those characteristics.


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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: jet li]
    #7579592 - 10/31/07 07:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the ones marked "A" in the first pic certainly appear to be libs, hard to say for the others though... seems like a mixed batch of psilocybe semilanceata & stropharia semiglobata... the pics are too small to make any assumption on the others...

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I just need to know if it's possible for libs' caps to expand as they get old.




not sure these are semilanceata, perhaps strictipes, but as u can see it is certainly possible for them to have flat caps.



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Re: Liberty cap ID please [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7580553 - 10/31/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

mushrooms A, J,K and L are very likely to be libs. 3,4and 5 look hopeful as well.


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