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IncenseTool
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You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!!
#7577622 - 10/30/07 05:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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What what am i gonna do if its 60 degrees in my basement, i cant heat up the chamber a lil bit whats up with this help me out.
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budmanman
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: IncenseTool]
#7577627 - 10/30/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can try tub in tub incubation, but from my understanding this drys the sub out quicker.
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ThePyschonaut52
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: budmanman]
#7577635 - 10/30/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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do a search for "heat bomb".
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monstermitch
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: IncenseTool]
#7577656 - 10/30/07 05:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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put a space heater in the basement.
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
#7577728 - 10/30/07 05:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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How does your FC work?
I have mine in a 65F room and i use hydroton/geolite for humidity, and an air pump/stone for air circulation. I have 4 inches of hydroton in 2 inches of water and i use an aquarium heater, under the water, in the middle of the hydroton, and i got pretty good humidity and a nice mid 70's temp.
I tried to make a heat bomb, and it would have worked, except that my heater is fully submersible; and because of that fact, when i lay my heatbomb down, water will drip out of the top near the thermostat or power cable.
I'm going to take advantage of that fact and use the heater in my FC, then the FC as the outer tub in a TiT.
Hope that helps. Good luck
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mycocurious
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: monstermitch]
#7577748 - 10/30/07 05:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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monstermitch said: put a space heater in the basement.
and don't aim it directly at the fruiting chamber either or you'll have the same problems...fighting wild temperature and humidity swings as they're both directly related to each other.
A little space heater will go a long way though. My unheated garage will generally be somewhere between 20(F) less than my house's temperature or 20(F) more than the outside temperature - whichever works out least in my favor, lol - but with a little $25 USD space heater from your local big-box store keeps it between 74-80(F).
Look for one with a thermostat on it, the thermostat will be horribly imprecise compared to the one in your house but it only needs to be in the general "ballpark" of the 75-80(F) range anyways.
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IncenseTool
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: mycocurious]
#7577948 - 10/30/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, i got a space heater, but it doesnt have a thermostat on it, this just sucks cause i planned on using a fish tank heater, and then it would be simple.
for humidity im using perlite. its a small area but very tall, like one of those big tubs. and its insulated very well. so i should just use a space heater and a aquarium heter inside just incase.
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: IncenseTool]
#7577964 - 10/30/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Try something like this:

It's two 30gal totes, one inside the other. with about 10gals of water in between and a 200w aquarium heater. & I use 4 zip ties to push the top tote down a few inches.
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nw_shroomy
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: BUDDHA_702]
#7578076 - 10/30/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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BUDDHA_702 said: Try something like this:

It's two 30gal totes, one inside the other. with about 10gals of water in between and a 200w aquarium heater. & I use 4 zip ties to push the top tote down a few inches.
Thats for incubating.Hes talking about the Fruiting chamber.
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: nw_shroomy]
#7578102 - 10/30/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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although it is for incubation... why couldnt he do something similar for fruiting, just at a lower temperature?
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nw_shroomy
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: buggas]
#7578107 - 10/30/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
I have mine in a 65F room and i use hydroton/geolite for humidity, and an air pump/stone for air circulation. I have 4 inches of hydroton in 2 inches of water and i use an aquarium heater, under the water, in the middle of the hydroton, and i got pretty good humidity and a nice mid 70's temp.
Do this buggas Heres a link on building it. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7312664#7312664
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Locus]
#7578124 - 10/30/07 07:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Locus said: although it is for incubation... why couldnt he do something similar for fruiting, just at a lower temperature?
That's what I do. I have a second lid with a light attached to it. I just lower the temp 10 degrees and put the light lid on.
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nw_shroomy
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Locus]
#7578139 - 10/30/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Locus said: although it is for incubation... why couldnt he do something similar for fruiting, just at a lower temperature?
I Guess he could use it that way after thinking about it.
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: nw_shroomy]
#7578290 - 10/30/07 08:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You don't heat an FC from the inside because it does a major shitstorm to your RH by letting condensation form inside on the cooler walls of the tub. This leads to problems with standing water in the FC and the contaminations that this tends to invite.
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: nw_shroomy]
#7580602 - 10/31/07 12:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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nw_shroomy said:
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I have mine in a 65F room and i use hydroton/geolite for humidity, and an air pump/stone for air circulation. I have 4 inches of hydroton in 2 inches of water and i use an aquarium heater, under the water, in the middle of the hydroton, and i got pretty good humidity and a nice mid 70's temp.
Do this buggas Heres a link on building it. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7312664#7312664
Dude, that's exactly what i have. It would work very well in the summer without the heater, but now that the temp is a little cold, and i like to save a bit of energy, my living room tends to get down in the 60's. I would have rather left the heater out, just to simplify, but I think it's too cold.
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You don't heat an FC from the inside because it does a major shitstorm to your RH by letting condensation form inside on the cooler walls of the tub. This leads to problems with standing water in the FC and the contaminations that this tends to invite.
You make a good point, and i was actually attacked by some mildew a few days ago. My pod is still in it's testing stages, but it concerned me. I use a bit of h2o2 (1:10) / bleach (1:200) water to keep in check. I don't know how this will affect the cakes when they are in there though.
I hope it still works ok because without the h2o2-chlorine-water i think you're totally right and mildew would set in again if it got the chance.
I'm going to add a couple of holes in the lid to let some of that air escape because for the most part it's more air-tight then free-flow, and i got droplets all over the place. I'm just scared adding holes because that would allow the nasties to get in easier. I was thinking of adding twice as many holes than planned, but fill with polyfill.
What do you all think?
Edited by buggas (10/31/07 12:52 PM)
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IncenseTool
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: buggas]
#7580719 - 10/31/07 01:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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the problem is that i cant do that tub thin cause thats out in the open and my area where im doing it is like in my wall kinda so i cant do that.
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buggas
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Re: You cant heat up a fruiting chamber WTF!!!!!!!!!! [Re: IncenseTool]
#7580947 - 10/31/07 02:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't know how good your craft skills are, but for about 12 dollars, you can buy some plexiglass, a cutter, and some silicone to make your own custom tank. Just use some common sense and a ruler and you can't fail. You can even use glass, or anything else that will hold water. Maybe even shopping for a thin breakfast cereal tupperware thingy. That would fit nicely between a wall (but only hold a couple of cakes).
Just remember to let the silicone cure for a couple of days before you get it wet. dry to the touch is not cured, trust me.
If i were you (growing in a wall) that's what i would do. Be careful not to get any of the drywall or insulation wet or anything because it will mold up fast.
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