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Maximizing second and later flushes
    #7577357 - 10/30/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wrapping up a little grow (first ever), using the PF-tek for simple minds, and the results were a little mixed- the first flush was pretty decent, but the second was very skimpy, and half the cakes don't appear to be headed for a third flush at all. It's been nearly 6 weeks since the cakes were birthed.

For the experienced growers: does anything below jump out at you as severely harming yield? Can anything be done to coax a decent 3rd flush out of these cakes, or would you just move on to the next grow?

Here's pretty much what happened:
- cakes dunked for 24 hours then rolled in verm at birth and between flushes.
- fruiting chambers are (2) translucent containers big enough for 6 cakes each, with 3" perlite, no holes, and loose sheets of aluminum foil for lids.
- fanned by hand for 10-30 seconds 3-6 times per day
- misted daily until first hyphal knots appeared, then not at all (except after each dunk and roll).
- cleaned off nearly all pins bigger than around 3mm after each flush; on some cakes some hyphal knots turned blue or black after a couple of weeks but I did nothing to remove them. On occassion at the end of a flush didn't pull off a pin that turned out later to be an abort.
- room temp around mostly around 68-72, though it sometimes would get as cold as 65.
-ambient light from a nearby window, no direct sunlight.


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Re: Maximizing second and later flushes [Re: 5tone]
    #7577383 - 10/30/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

picking pins before they grow certainly can harm your yield.
pins should only be picked if they've aborted.
the substrate puts in all that time an energy to form hyphal
knots and primordia, and then the pins begin to grow... and you
pick them.

you can't do that very much and expect the substrate to just keep
on making more. it'll only make so many.


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Re: Maximizing second and later flushes [Re: monstermitch]
    #7577407 - 10/30/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

murderer...


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Re: Maximizing second and later flushes [Re: monstermitch]
    #7577411 - 10/30/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks MM- So it won't hurt if a few of the pins left on after a flush turn out to be aborts?


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Re: Maximizing second and later flushes [Re: 5tone]
    #7577467 - 10/30/07 04:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

nope.

give them every chance you can to grow.
don't pick them.
if they abort, oh well.  if not though...

:dj:


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Re: Maximizing second and later flushes [Re: monstermitch]
    #7577497 - 10/30/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome, thanks a lot!


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