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Damnit, I froze them
#7576615 - 10/30/07 01:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So i've got this big thing coming up tommorrow that's like the perfect time for a good trip. I went out to the field and picked what i could find etc.
Now i get back and i'm thinking of a way to dry these things out by tommorrow. So i turn the stove on till it's 90 degrees and slide them in there.
Well for some dumbass reason i decided after them being in there for like 2 hours that maybe if i stick them in the freezer for like 5 minutes it might speed up the dehydration.
Turns out i got sidetracked, forgot all about them, left them in there for right at 20 mins, come back, they're frozen slightly.
Take them out, set them on a paper towel and then i set that inside a pot and put them in front of the fan to thaw them out.
Come back, the paper towel is turning blue. I think it's clear i just knocked some potency out of them.. however did freezing them do anything real bad to them?
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Re: Damnit, I froze them [Re: cube talk]
#7577132 - 10/30/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've only frozen shrooms once. I figured it would rupture the cell walls and make extraction of the actives more effective. I froze about 50 grams, then blended with lemon juice after they thawed. I got absolutely nothing from it, and these shrooms were from a grow that was otherwise potent.
Now I like to cook them, which doesn't decrease the potency but makes them taste good.
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Re: Damnit, I froze them [Re: pokermush]
#7577297 - 10/30/07 03:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mind elaborating on how you cook em? I'm curious.
I've only ever made tea, but have also noticed little to no potency loss preparing them with heat, which many people say will kill the psilocin/psilocybin.
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Re: Damnit, I froze them [Re: cube talk]
#7577479 - 10/30/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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try to eat them while they are frozen. Eat them right from the freezer. There might still be hope.
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Re: Damnit, I froze them [Re: Drewwyann]
#7577500 - 10/30/07 04:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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If i remember right... I did freeze them once like 2 years ago and i did trip off that same batch in which i made tea with.
I want to hear someone with some scientific evidence saying that freezing them actually hurts them.
cuz i don't see why
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Re: Damnit, I froze them [Re: cube talk]
#7577509 - 10/30/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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they are already thawed out and being dryed out on top of the tv 
However, this completely f'd me up. I wanted to determine the potency of them, because they look badass i mean really really dark blue cyanescans.
fck me, will i ever get it right :@
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Re: Damnit, I froze them [Re: cube talk]
#7578806 - 10/30/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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To answer the question of cooking, I've tried two methods. The first is to fry fresh shrooms with garlic, butter, and onions, then add some eggs and cheese. The other was to make ramen noodles and add dry shrooms (broken into small pieces) to the near-boiling broth, then consume it all.
Regarding the issue of freezing, I read somewhere that the psilocybin molecule is actually protected and stabilized by "shell" of sorts, but this shell is broken by the ice crystals during freezing. That causes very rapid oxidation when they thaw. At least that was the explanation I got.
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Re: Damnit, I froze them [Re: pokermush]
#7580581 - 10/31/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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thats just great, just fucking great
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Re: Damnit, I froze them [Re: cube talk]
#7581325 - 10/31/07 03:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You didn't affect your potency as much as you think. There's no need to worry. People who don't know better freeze shrooms all the time, and still trip off them.
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