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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7582113 - 10/31/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ok let me say first off I met vandago at the gathering we had a couple weeks ago and he is one of the most chill/coolest guys I have met in a real long time.

Vandago dude I was just about to call you and see how gory fest was (I really wanted to go but was broke) and came across this post, all I can say is fuckin A man. What an incredibly fucked up weekend.

I really hope you don't blame yourself for any of that shit that happened. I'd think that after a drug cocktail like you had (and the collection of pipes you have) forgetting which one you had the dmt in is completely understandable I can't believe people are breaking your balls about that.

Also if someone punched me in the face drugs or not shit would definitely hit the fan. When you get hit it just flips that switch where the adrenaline flows and the punches fly with no thought frankly I think a lot of this wouldn't have happened if your room mate could have controlled himself.

Hopefully all this will be chalked up to the drugs and it will blow over and you guys can get still live together...


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7582114 - 10/31/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think vandago's right about most of what he said but i will have to disagree with him on a few clauses:

- You DID take too many drugs, i'm sure if you had not taken just one of those drugs the night would have been alot better

- It was irresponsible what you did, and although you blame the bad trip on your friend, if you knew he was such a dick its kind of your fault for tripping with him in the first place.

However, it is quite possible that that evening COULD have gone swell i think alot of it had to do with chance. I'm sure you learned your lesson, and i'm glad nobody was SERIOUSLY hurt and that you didnt get arrested or charged or anything like that. Losing your glass pipe and just generally having a shitty time is a good enough punishment lol

I dont see why people have to flame this guy, especially after what he went through, he didnt post this on here to get shit from you guys, he's had plenty of that, maybe next time you can try using more constructive criticism and not just "your a complete dumbass"


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: vandago]
    #7582652 - 10/31/07 11:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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We ate 2 gels a piece and walked it for a while and decided to get a ride home, on the way to our ride, we pick up half a gram of K and 10 G's up Hoes down rolls.





So how are those G's up Hoes Down pills? I've got 2 white ones that I haven't tried yet, I've heard they're good though.


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: Dreamer987]
    #7583008 - 11/01/07 05:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Dreamer987 said:
wtf? most of these things were out of his controll.
It sounds like he just picked a bad set and setting, and the people he was with couldn't handle they'r shit.




well this:
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I grabbed a pressure point on the back of his neck, and proceeded to hit him in the head til the back of his head split wide open and blood started gushing everywhere. He started begging for me to stop, saying he was going to die, so I got up and being in a raging state, grabbed a pan of grease ( not hot grease cold grease ) and dumped it on him, then hit him in the head with a glass jar.



doesn't sound like 'handling your shit':thumbdown:


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: stefan]
    #7583185 - 11/01/07 08:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

When one finds themself confused and in a bad way, and one has all the characteristics of drug seeking behaviour, then one is an addict, even if not a physical addict, and one is only going to get worse. Or one can quit everything. That's the best way is clean out for awhile, or else you will just make worse and worse karma until you don't recognize your own life any longer. I have been there. It hurts to hear, so sorry. But after watching my friend threaten to kill his wife and two kids with his 2x barrel while shooting Xanax and heroin, I had the first bright thought of my life and it was this, drugs can easily lead to hell. Literally. In this very life. Sounds like you have a foot on that road. Be well.


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: stefan]
    #7583222 - 11/01/07 08:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

No, the fight did get out of hand, the last two things ( pan of grease, glass jar, which didn't break ) were out of sheer rage from getting attacked, and isn't typical of me. I've never fought on drugs before, barely fight in general, so throughout the fight I blacked out. When I grabbed the pressure point on the back of his neck, he was on top of my chest hitting me in the face. How do you go about that sitaution, I'd like to hear how you'd have handled things differently.

Fighting on drugs was something I would choose never to do again if at all possible, it's well harder to control then just the drugs, which you can't really control at all times. I hope you understand where someone who gets blasted in the face several times on mushrooms and xanax must be coming from.




As far as people calling me a dumbass, why would I not realize this? I clearly stated several times in the post I was not very happy with the outcome of this weekend. I am not blaming dmt for the pipe break, however I do blame my friend ( he'd been living with me for over a year, paying half the rent ) for in a difficult situation, throwing out insults instead of helping words, and then walking up to me and straight out attacking me.

Xanax is usually not a common drug I use by the way. I actually refrain from it's use as much as possible, it either makes me a babbling idiot, or knocks me straight out, both ways usually leaving me with amnesia. For recreation I don't take it, for sleep yes, and sometimes for a rough trip.


G's up hoes down, really good, these were speckled tye dye, with a period by the G. Felt extremely clean, if not pure.


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: vandago]
    #7583270 - 11/01/07 09:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

By the way, I do appreciate peoples "advice" on what they think is my situation, which I'm amazed they can tell from one trip report. I know, for the most part ( the guy calling me an idiot and that I belong in jail, needs to get off his high horse ) you are all just trying to help, and I do appreciate that. There's so much more in depth to the entire situation, for you to analyze me over these key points, is useless for you, and gives me even more garbage to think about. This whole thing has changed my life, I just put the dmt did, because it was while I was smoking it, and it somewhat correlated. I have plenty to think about from this, all your words of wisdom, all your gripes about what moves I made wrong, I've already thought about and then some.

I lost a friend.
I have to move.
both could've been avoided if I'd have played my hand a little better. And I didn't. I have to reflect in this now, so trust me I'm way ahead of you. But once again, I know most of you are just trying to help, and I knew plenty of you wouldnt agree with much of what was put in that story and would have comments, but it's what happened, I can't take it back. You are allowed to disagree with the way I handled everything that weekend, I for the most part, feel the same.


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: vandago]
    #7583289 - 11/01/07 09:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Xanax is usually not a common drug I use by the way. I actually refrain from it's use as much as possible, it either makes me a babbling idiot, or knocks me straight out, both ways usually leaving me with amnesia. For recreation I don't take it, for sleep yes, and sometimes for a rough trip.



Xanax can make shit get a little crazy... I have a friend that likes to eat them all the time... like 5+ bars at once. He's tried to fight me so many times... and the next day he doesn't remember a damn thing... Xanax just make me forget shit... I have a bad enough time remembering as it is... haha >_< Hope things work out for you, man..


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: vandago]
    #7583302 - 11/01/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I agree though, I bet the pyramid was the answer.  I got a cosmic kick in the ass for backing out :smile:




I think the pyramid was created by your spirit guides to protect you from the very situation you found yourself in.  Not exactly a cosmic kick in the ass, just remember that those guys are looking out for you.  They exist outside of time, and knew just what was about to happen in your home.  I suggest you take their comfort and protection next time.


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: BrandNoob]
    #7583900 - 11/01/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

defensiveness usually points at the truth and it is the mirror of ones face as being the cause of their own suffering. thus the more defensive one becomes the closer to their own face they are.


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: eve69]
    #7585863 - 11/01/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

In any case, In Rainbows is sex, and that's all you should care about.

I mean, when you post such a personal experience, you should expect that people are gonna be asses. If you're not looking for advice dunno what you'd be looking for.. that's what people are assuming anyway, just FYI.


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: Cyrone]
    #7586912 - 11/02/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's just that for some DMT and other spirit drugs are to be used for spiritual insight and not just dosed wholesale for sport. That sort of makes them pointless. I mean what sort of values could be said to have been obtained when it led to cracking someone in the head with a jar. Coupled with Xanax and etc. Part of the safekeeping of these drugs is that they are not recreational in the sense that they have side effects in reality. Mixing pharma and nature is like mixing wine and cocacola. You're gonna vomit the combination. I just think people who have absolutely no respect for their own spirit are going to crash in a hard comedown. People think that the Earth is the Ground, but that's not so, ones Being is the Ground. Which means that if a person cannot get with their own inner spaciousness then they will have a hard time when they finally drop their flesh. Mind training is the issue here. And just abusing drugs wholesale is not mind training nor special insight. Someone is not going to develop as a person under these circumstances, so they are just devolving. The natural visionary drugs, since they have no other use besides the visionary are thereby for those who use them for visions. When I hear of people who use them combined with other things just to make some suicidal coctail then I get rather miffed. But luckily, his is not my life. I have respect. I respect the visionary as a personal tool for becoming a 'better' human, not just a rampaging animal. If one is becoming more compassionate and caring, and more wise, then great! If not then they should just go straight to heroin and jail, because that's the long and short of it. I have seen it too many times. In any case it's just better to be L7. If one cannot utilize vision. Later.


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: eve69]
    #7587845 - 11/02/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You sound like you have your beliefs so far up your ass, you're just spewing shit from your mouth ( the problem with a lot of people with really strong beliefs, IMO ) . Most people would defend themselves when people insult them, because the fact that you are passing judgment based on your beliefs ( not only that saying I belong in jail, you sound like you're on the right path as well ) is an insult.  Everyones different, there's plenty of paths, it's not just one way or the other. The path I am on may not be your path to self righteousness, or whatever in your mind, that you'll achieve, but I know I'm a good person.

What you consider a spirit drug, anyone can consider recreation.

I've read of shamans in brazil using crack cocaine as a spirirt drug, to help them communicate with god.

Is crack a spirit drug?

In my eyes, in my mind, everything is how we want to perceive.  One will better himself through whatever means he deems necessary.  One can improve himself and just because you don't see it, or think thats the proper way, doens't mean it isn't occuring. 

I was expecting a lot of people, who seem to not be able to look through other peoples eyes, and deem it necessary to not only judge another, but to insult one, to come forth and post their trash, I mean it is the shroomery.

I posted this because it was life changing for me, the actual trips themselves, and what took place during these trips.  To me, they seemed worth a write, worth sharing with people.  I'm sure I've not only gained plenty of insight from everything that has happened, but just from reading my story, a few people can know what not to do.

Not trying to really be rude, but for some odd reason, it just seems you are:confused:


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: vandago]
    #7588739 - 11/02/07 05:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

pull your dick out in the street, some people might look, some might reach for it, one will bust you, but you only have yourself to blame. one is really stupid if they think they will get a full blow job from anyone without rotten teeth. later...dipshit.


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: vandago]
    #7589577 - 11/02/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I was expecting a lot of people, who seem to not be able to look through other peoples eyes, and deem it necessary to not only judge another, but to insult one, to come forth and post their trash, I mean it is the shroomery.




Isn't it ironic that such "responsible and spiritual" people are coming in here and totally insult you? I mean I'm not accounting for everyone but yeah there are a couple asses that barged in here to do just that, to be hypocrites. I doubt they read the whole thing

If you look at the facts though, you treated DMT as a recreational drug and had a bad experience - if you HAD treated it like "spiritual" stuff, then you wouldn't have done it in the first place and none of it would have happened. It's experiences like these that make people think twice about DMT and treat it like it's "sacred" and thats where their viewpoints come from. BTW did you ever .. ASK why your roommate punched you over calling him a mooch?


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: eve69]
    #7589636 - 11/02/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think you guys need to lay off this guy. He's just trying to express himself, he's had a horrible week and wants to express that.

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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #7590281 - 11/03/07 06:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It sounds pretty bad. Reminds me of when I was detoxing off opiates and weed, and spending all my money on Vedic performances and I couldn't sleep for four months and then I gave my 20,000 dollar rudraksha collection to a Tibetan Lama. I was seriously out of my mind at that point. I had to stop having yajnas done and really chill out from all addictive strategies and games at that point. So many things in life demand all our attention and as addicts it becomes very difficult to separate drug seeking behaviour from normal behaviour. Addicts are anal retentive in many cases.

Naw, bullshit, some loser tokes himself to near death and violence and crys over his fucking glass pipe. What a dork.


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: eve69]
    #7590666 - 11/03/07 10:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Naw, bullshit, some loser tokes himself to near death and violence and crys over his fucking glass pipe. What a dork.




Is there a singal brain cell left after your "addiction" or are you just a mindless drone? 

There was no "near death", that "deadly drug cocktail"was not that at all.  Those drugs, in combination, will not lead to death, you are a pretty ignorant person, to come in here ranting your AA crap, and not know anything about what you are talking about. 

Just because you can't get a grip on a certain drug, does not mean every bad story you hear is " just like what happened to me".  I don't take opiates, I like being alive and alert, not straining to open my eyes.  I don't take xanax but maybe once every two months....if that, I actually hate the stuff, except what it's medical values are, for recreation it's garbage.

If I were to give you a "life report" about the last say, 3 months.  It'd be pretty fucking boring, Lots of excercising, work, and boring nothing.  You'd have maybe 5-6 actual trip reports in their, maybe one night of drinking. I'm not going to even respond to anything else you typed, you seem like a very narrow minded person, in fact you seem like a complete moron.

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Addicts are anal retentive in many cases.





^ You're living, recovering, proof of that :smile:


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: Cyrone]
    #7590700 - 11/03/07 11:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I did ask him why he hit me, but it was only 10 minutes after the fact, and I don't think either of us had calmed down much.

I mean he is a mooch. He tries not to be, but only by bitching about it, not by actually making an effort. I don't think on a sober mind he would've hit me, I think the drugs and him already being pissed at himself for being a mooch just irated him to the point he swung on me, maybe feeling insecure.

He moved out, stiffed me on octobers rent money ( total being 750, and I have 400 of it ) so he not only insulted me, swung at me, and moved out, but he stole that months half of rent as well.

I don't really know why though, he's a good guy, always been on of my most trustworthy friends. He's in a rough spot financially ( completely poor in debt ) so that might have influenced his decision to rip me off, but I dunno.


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Re: Smoking dmt changed my life, got my head smashed, broke a 300 dollar pipe, forced me out of my [Re: vandago]
    #7590730 - 11/03/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

this is WAAAAAY DUMB


sorry you caught raped up in dumb town USA


dmt is not for busing up your room mates brains :nonono:


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