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4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories
    #7575910 - 10/30/07 10:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, i have 4 differnt LC's that ive made getting ready for 4 seperate monotubs. i have Koh Samui, B+, MDK, and Orissa India. All of which were made from prints, except the Koh Samui which was made from a syringe from Spores101.

My Koh Samui works, just curious how long it lasts on the shelf in my closet. its dated....n/m, its not dated, anyway, heres the LC, and heres what it does to my popcorn.


My Orissa, contaminated in 4 quarts of wbs. does this automatically rule the LC as contam'ed? of should i try again, it really doesnt look that great.


My MDK has myc lookin balls floatin around in it, but they look VERY thick, like marbles almost, and have tiny black specks. is this a contam or could it be from the prints(being that it was black powder)?


My B+ just looks like shit....nothin happening except baby food on the bottom...


Heres a picture of all 4 listed above in the order they were listed.


please give me some sort of hope, but dont tell me they look ok if they dont. it is very frustrating throwing out all that grain!

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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: just me]
    #7575948 - 10/30/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

with contam'ed LC just dump it outside and start a outdoor grow


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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: Groomies]
    #7576425 - 10/30/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

do they look contamed? sorry if i forgot to post that Q in my first post!


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    #7577139 - 10/30/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7578230 - 10/30/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok, ive got the orissa in two syringes that didnt get cloudy at all, but its VERY whispy, like white hairs, not like a cloud in liquid.

the MDK is the one that looks decent, but if you look closely youll see black specks. is it possible, or common that the prints dont disolve all the way leaving in some black sediment within the myc ball?

and should i pretty much rule my print out if i rule my LC out, or just try again with the same prints. i was extremely sterile...

and yes i did use honey, but maybe i used too much, cuz i used honey in my KS LC, the one thats good, and my water is clear, but the water in the other three(which i used more honey in)are still a golden colored water


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    #7578325 - 10/30/07 08:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7578342 - 10/30/07 08:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

damn the luck!

i did use a lot of spores too, haha, like 1/2 a print, so i guess ill test it out.

im gonna dump the OI, and the B+, and ill knock up some brf jars with the mdk to see how potent it is, but i think to be safe ill just get some more syringes off a shroomery vendor.

i know somewhat what a contam in grain looks like now, thanks to my OI, but what will a contam in brf look like(never had one)if theres not a million different ones


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    #7578366 - 10/30/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7578465 - 10/30/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Those "balls" look like myc. Did you put anything in the jars to break up the mycelium clumps?


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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #7578565 - 10/30/07 09:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

no, i just shake the piss out of it b4 i suck it up, next batch ill put a marble in it.


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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: just me]
    #7578569 - 10/30/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Might I suggest dropping in a marble next time so you can shake it and break up the myc?


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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: Robo]
    #7578571 - 10/30/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: Robo]
    #7580152 - 10/31/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well ive dumped them all out, and im giving it a second go, just in the last 12 hours my MDK went bunk, and when i opened them up to pour them out i smelled them all, and the only one that didnt smell sour was the Koh Samui.

anyway, this next time ill use a glove box and insure the utmost sterility!

im going to try the prints again, bcuz i have no spore syringes, so if they go bunk again, ill blame it on the prints!

how long will an LC w/out spores in it keep. like if i just make up the honey water, and order some syringes today, will they be ok?


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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: just me]
    #7580806 - 10/31/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Lots of spore prints contain contaminates on them, and so do some syringes. Theres often no way to realy tell until you inoculate something other than LC, because LC's often don't reveal contams, especialy if you aren't experienced at spotting them. Some of the top cultivators on this forum generaly recomend not to do LC's, unless you first grow the spores/myc out on agar to check for contams and then transfer to your LC. LC's being an anarobic invironment, are a good growth medium for anarobic bacteria, which you dont want. I believe (not sure on this) some contaminates that would normaly be outcompeted by the mushroom mycelium in grain/brf jars, are able to reproduce to intolerable quantities inside of an LC.

I have made about 20 LC's in the past 3 months, and experimented with different lid designs, jar sizes etc. Many of those LC's contaminated. Some where infected by a contaminated syringe. Some LC's from the same syringe and same nutrient solution turned out to look completely different. Im at the point now that I have a bunch of projects that I suspect of being contaminated with some kind of white mold, for which I suspect my LC's. In retrospect I wish I would have used G2G instead since its easier and actualy faster than making LC.

I would think your LC without spores would last forever as long as your filters/lids are working as designed. I think that since LC's are a liquid it is impossible for myc to "take over" the jar, thussly protecting it from contamination. If I am right that would mean that an LC is always susceptible and therefore relies on the quality of your lids, PCing, innoculant, and sterile technique, to keep it from contaminating. Placing the LC in a fridge is done to preserve a colonized LC. It would also slow down the growth of any contaminates so you could do that until the syringes get there, making sure to let the solution warm up before inoculation.


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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: KrissKross]
    #7580839 - 10/31/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok, sounds good. anyone second this opinion that my honey water will stay good for a while, as long as i was sterile in all my procedures?

i dont know why i didnt think about G2G!!!! doh!

can i use any grain to any other grain, i have two fully colonized popcorns right now, and ill do 10 other jars of Koh Samui if itll keep me from worrying about LC contams!


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Re: 4 LC's; 4 Very Different Stories [Re: just me]
    #7581731 - 10/31/07 05:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

As long as the grains are fully colonized you can spawn from any grain to any other grain. One fully colonized quart jar should provide about enough spawn to inoculate 10 more quart jars. In order to break the spawn up into the individual kernels bang your jar against a bycicle tire or phone book. Make sure to sterilise the outside of your spawn jar with %70 rubbing alcohol before inoculation. When you do G2G your gonna want a glove box with enough height so that you can lift 1 jar over another jar and pour the spawn into the sterile grain jar. I ended up finding out at the last minute that my glovebox was too shallow and I wasn't impressed.


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