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Zorro
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PICS: Amanita Muscaria (UPDATE)
#7574089 - 10/29/07 07:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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A follow-up from my previous thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7555627/an/0/page/0
So me and my girlfriend went back to pick some Amanita Muscaria's but unfortunately many "disappeared" since our last walk (about two weeks ago). I don't know what happened to the disappeared ones but we were still able to collect some good looking Amanitas
We've dried them with the oven and now we're wondering how to consume them. Maybe make a tea or a soup out of them?
Anyway,here are some pics that I took after collecting the Amanita Muscarias (including pics from the place we found them and the mushrooms after my girlfriend cleaned them from dirt). There are some pics from when they were in the oven too and a pic taken after they were dried.
How should I prepare them to consume and what are the interactions with SSRI's?








Also, what would be a good dose for a beginner to start with (none of us have consumed Amanitas before). Taken in account that we're both on SSRI's.
Greets, M.
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Edited by Zorro (10/29/07 08:36 PM)
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IncenseTool
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Re: Amanita Muscaria UPDATE [Re: Zorro]
#7574110 - 10/29/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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what did you put the oven at (temp). cause if over 200F the Psilocybin, etc. would be broken down so you wont even get high. thats in CUbensis i dont know what there is in that type of mushroom. and i also thought they were posinous. just what i read.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria UPDATE [Re: IncenseTool]
#7574123 - 10/29/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's why he's cooked it to turn the ibotenic acid into muscimol.
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Zorro
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Re: Amanita Muscaria UPDATE [Re: IncenseTool]
#7574146 - 10/29/07 07:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not an expert in any way but I DO know that Amanita Muscaria does NOT contain any Psilocybine. The main active ingredient is (or so I think) Muscimol. Amanitas are not to be compared with other kinds of psychoactive mushrooms, the "trip" is totally different(more introspective and less visual), from what I've heard. Although I've never eaten an Amanita Muscaria before in my life, I'm very interested in trying them. It sounds like a very underestimated mushroom to me.
Could someone with some more expertise please comment on my first post?
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fliped
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Re: PICS: Amanita Muscaria (UPDATE) [Re: Zorro]
#7574576 - 10/29/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am not positive on doeses either. I have not heard good things about the trip from those bad boys though. Good luck! Be safe
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Re: Amanita Muscaria UPDATE [Re: Zorro]
#7574596 - 10/29/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas.shtml
I have not personally tried them, but plan to in the next week. Let us all know how it goes!
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Re: PICS: Amanita Muscaria (UPDATE) [Re: fliped]
#7574637 - 10/29/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not here saying that what you have is Fly Agaric.. but here is what I can offer you from my experience.
Prepare them properly.
A good working point is 5g. I had a bad experience when trying a Fly Agaric grown in a different region with a high starting dose. Horrible night in the bathtub.
Start low in my opinion.
The body high reminds me alot of other high substance doses (2c* esp).. when you get that heavy breathing where the room breaths with you.. I have had the most realistic OEVs ever with about 20g (I believe it was low potentcy). I was sitting on the crapper and the wallpaper almost directly in front of me had a cross-stich pattern. Upon closer inspection, I ended up with a Google Earth type view of some ancient "Aztec" looking city. I could zoom in and see people on the different tiers of each building walking around and performing typical daily tasks.. Far out?
Be careful!
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Re: PICS: Amanita Muscaria (UPDATE) [Re: takeflight]
#7577142 - 10/30/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cooking them converts ibotenic acid into muscimol, which is more active and much safer.
there very sexy pics
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Re: PICS: Amanita Muscaria (UPDATE) [Re: haymaker]
#7577521 - 10/30/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi there,
From various preparation attempts over the last few winters, I believe I've discovered the best way to prepare fresh A. Muscaria for maximum potency:
1. Clean the mushrooms, and separate the stems from the caps. 2. Roast stems and caps in a BOWL (this is important) in an oven set at 200F, with the oven door left open a crack, so the steam can escape. 3. After a while, you'll notice a golden juice sweating out of the mushrooms - this is what you want, as it seems to contain a lot of the active compounds. Pour this juice into a separate container periodically, as the mushrooms dehydrate. 4. When the mushrooms have sufficiently dried, chop/tear them into small bits and make a tea of them in very hot water. Don't boil them. 5. Strain out the mushroom particles (or not if you wish to eat them) and pour the golden liquid saved in step #3 into the tea. 6. Drink and enjoy. The tea has a savory mushroom-soup flavor, so I wouldn't add any sweeteners. Salt may be added, but if you plan on recycling (your urine), you should avoid excess salt consumption.
In terms of effects, I've found them to produce a very opiate-like sedation, with interesting bodily sensations, and a reflective stillness of mind. Dreamy visuals have been noticed with higher dosages. No nausea has ever been encountered. Urine recycling was tried, but the mental and physical effort needed to do so seemed more trouble than it was worth.
Peace.
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Re: PICS: Amanita Muscaria (UPDATE) [Re: Amanitrust]
#7582630 - 10/31/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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whens the season end for these mushrooms...
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