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InvisiblePyroBurns
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Is Salvia worth it?
    #7573914 - 10/29/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I can pick up some 60x for $40 right now if I wanted to.

The girl at the glass shop let me sample some regular leaf and I thought it was pretty cool. I was laughing, and felt drunk for a few minutes. Then I had the most hilarious walk with some bum who kept trying to hint that he wanted money.

God, that's just what I needed too. After all that annoying shit that happened today.


So would you say it's worth it?

Do you think a hookah place would let me smoke it there? I have no friends, so I don't have a trip sitter.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7573921 - 10/29/07 06:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Try 5x or 10x First. 60x is likely unnecessary.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: Moo456]
    #7574033 - 10/29/07 06:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I grabbed some 20x because it wasn't much more than the 10.

Now I need somewhere to try it... Hmmm..


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7574045 - 10/29/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thats good .I think for most people more than 20x would be overkill anyway.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7574046 - 10/29/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I've heard that the different extracts don't make a difference but I don't know how true this is.

Many think it's not worth it but I think it's pretty nice. I haven't tripped from it, but I have felt it's effects.. and it leaves me with a peaceful mind and a relaxing afterglow.

I'd say definately but it is rather expensive...

I'd like to grow my own plant sometime..


Edited by Phishe (10/29/07 06:57 PM)


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7574065 - 10/29/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

is it worth it? depends on what you're expecting. it's not fun like smoking cannabis is fun. the visuals are not like mushroom visuals. it can be very, very intense and some people can't handle it. start with small doses and work your way upwards. sooner or later you'll find you sweetspot or you'll find out that salvia is not for you. :cool:


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: maggotz]
    #7574092 - 10/29/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

me and my friend tryed out the 15x of salvia and he ripped a bowl with a butane lighter and he started giggleing, then he starting looking at me retarded and tryed lifting the table and getting up and sitting down and getting up he was bugging out, he tottally lost his mind. it scared me a little bit but after like a minute he came back to reality and hes was like "i donno what happened i felt like i was in a different place"

then after i smoked it because i know different people have different affects, it felt like i was being pulling or whatnot from different directions, things gave me sensations like my surrounding.. went away quick but its alright.

it was like a one time thing really, now im trying to get my hands on cubes; alot better trip than salvia


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: wocka]
    #7574106 - 10/29/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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it was like a one time thing really, now im trying to get my hands on cubes; alot better trip than salvia



not better, different. :wink:


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: wocka]
    #7574114 - 10/29/07 07:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It is worth it. Smoke it in the woods or in your house you don't need a trip sitter.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: clemens]
    #7574135 - 10/29/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i dont suggest what the above poster said, unless u have figured out how ur body will react the first time smoking salvia do it with a sitter.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: maggotz]
    #7574151 - 10/29/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ok couple things. I would definitely try the extract the regular lead didn't really do shit for me.

Phishe I don't know who told you extracts don't make a difference but I tried some 100x extract and let me tell you there is a world of difference b/t 20x and 100x. 100x is fucking intense, you might wanna start off with something a little less like 20x or something.

I would definitely not smoke this in a hookah bar even if they let you. It can be WAY to intense to have a bunch of people around you, you don't know when your tripping balls like that. It only lasts like 20 min so even if you do freak out a little you'll be out of it before long.

I would recomend smoking out of a gravity bong so you can get the maximum amount of smoke in one breath. Last thing, make sure you're sitting down when you do it. When I smoked the 100x I immidiately dropped the bong and fell on the ground as soon I inhaled.

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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: disturbed]
    #7574157 - 10/29/07 07:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I know to sit down, but I'm still scared that my pipe will get lost somehow.

Can't smoke in the dorm, so it'll have to be in the woods. Do you at least have enough sense to shove it back in your pocket or not?


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7574173 - 10/29/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yes. but make it quick.


Edited by maggotz (10/29/07 07:34 PM)


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7574195 - 10/29/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it would be pretty hard to lose your pipe. considering i don't think you'll be doing too much moving around, there can't be too many places where you could drop it.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7574235 - 10/29/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

a lot of people do move around a lot, they probably don't know what they're doing. others just sit around and barely move at all.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: maggotz]
    #7574311 - 10/29/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It sounds like you didn't even really get the full salvia experience your first time. If you do it right, you will trip complete balls for about 5-10 minutes. The laughing and drunk feeling are just threshold effects. It gets much more intense than that.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: LSDaytripper]
    #7574338 - 10/29/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

My first time was just normal leaves.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7574359 - 10/29/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This is sort of just a random observation I realized, but I've noticed people who practice astral projection or Out of body experience seem to handle salvia much better than inexperienced people. I think this could be because of they are much more used to letting go of their physical attachment.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: maggotz]
    #7574386 - 10/29/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

One thing I really feel like I need to point out, is that smoking in a hooka bar could work for some people. However, its a very disrespectful thing to do when you dont take the next person who smokes a hooka in consideration especially when using extract.
I personally would feel obvious effects from the said hooka and would probably talk to upper management and tell them how fucked up it is that their hookas have salvia residue in them. I wouldnt throw a fit, but I dont plan on using psychedelics again within the next 5 years atleast. Thats why I would be somewhat upset.

The first time I tried 5x I took two hits and had massive visuals, geometries crawling all over my skin/emanating from my torso and head (no pins and needles) and one hell of an amazing experience.
Then again, I had tripped around 100 times on a variety of psychedelic drugs(mostly lsd) so I know that I was more sensitive than some people, especially people who have little psychedelic experience.
Some people even trip really hard off of it no matter their past psychedelic experiences.
There are a few theories floating around about why some people cant feel it as easily as others. For most people a lack of psychedelic effects is likely a combination the 3 or so related theories.

The theories are easy to come up with without reading about it.


Anyways, do people like me a favor and dont smoke it out of some smoking devise used by many.
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My advise would be, since you have no friends, make some friends, or do the following:

Smoke a VERY small hit in a dimly lit room. Back straight, sitting "indian style".
Dont get up if you get scared or simply feel stressed.
Just dont get up for any reason or flail around like all those doinks you see on youtube.

This way you let the non-extract/leaf-like dose just penetrate you as you sit.

Get to know it at low doses first if you dont have a trip sitter.
You are not going to cut your dick off or something if that is what you are worried about.
Most of us know how to chill the hell out like adults, and thats what you need to do for about 5-20 min depending on dose.

Just start low and you will probably learn how powerful it is and how you react.
Then, on high doses you will be able to assure yourself that you dont need a sitter and wont crack your head opened because you tripped over your bong, or some other uncommon bullshit.

Work your way up.

Having a sitter is just one way to do it.


You are not inherently an idiot if you work your doses up by your damn self.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: yageman]
    #7574686 - 10/29/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I would buy it for that price. I've only done 25x and 30x but 60x would be intense. And let that chick at the shop get a hit...haha.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7574696 - 10/29/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the 60x is going to be unexpectedly strong but you shouldnt need a sitter or anything cause it only lasts like 15 minutes but thats just my opinion if you feel you should have one then you should


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: dismantled02]
    #7574769 - 10/29/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Considering the effects that you got from your first sample of plain leaf, I'm thinking that 20X is going to whip you about a bit.

You can work your way up alone maybe. You may find it very easy to accidentally go too far.

The woods are great so long as there are no drop offs nearby and you can handle walking into trees. Most likely you will just find one and hang on to it for dear life though. You may become part of the tree. Pretty sure however that you will walk out just fine a little bit later.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7576783 - 10/30/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

PyroBurns said:
I was laughing, and felt drunk for a few minutes. Then I had the most hilarious walk with some bum who kept trying to hint that he wanted money.





i find it funny when people placebo themselves, and exert a nervous laughter cause they are confused


remember the 3 rules to salvia for a successful trip...

1) hold the flame to the bowl during the ENTIRE hit.  you can't smoke it like pot, it needs very high temperatures.  not doing this will result in failure

2)smoke your entire dose in a single hit. you won't have enough time for a second hit.  not doing this will result in failure

3) hold your hit in and count to yourself in your head to 20 as you pocket your bowl.  not doing this will resulf in failure

do all of these things, and you'll see just how "funny" salvia is  :lol:


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: ravin0fff]
    #7576900 - 10/30/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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2)smoke your entire dose in a single hit. you won't have enough time for a second hit. not doing this will result in failure



false. you don't need to take it all in one hit, it's better if you do but you won't "fail" if you take more than one hit. when i'm dealing with extract i take the first hit and (because i'm used to the effects) then i decide if i need another hit or not. when i'm dealing with plain leaf it usually takes at least two hits to get to where i want to get, usually level 4 or 5. it really depends on the strength of the material you're using and how sensitive you are.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it? [Re: ravin0fff]
    #7578029 - 10/30/07 06:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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ravin0fff said:
Quote:

PyroBurns said:
I was laughing, and felt drunk for a few minutes. Then I had the most hilarious walk with some bum who kept trying to hint that he wanted money.





i find it funny when people placebo themselves, and exert a nervous laughter cause they are confused






No, that was no placebo. I wasn't really in a good mood that day, and didn't even expect anything from that. The laughing kept coming out of nowhere. Unless I was subconciously desperate or something, there was no way that was fake.


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