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getting prepped for rue+mushrooms
    #7573860 - 10/29/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Alright well sometime this weekend, when the mood is right, im going to take syrian rue and mushrooms. I think i've decided on 2 grams of rue and 2 of mushrooms and eat my way upwards accordingly.

Anyone have any stories or anything they would like to devulge to get me pumped/prepared for this? I've read erowid ones, and they seem incredible.

Any experience, advice, or things to do to get me excited for this and put me in a good mindset for it would be fantastic. :smile:


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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7573881 - 10/29/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

im interested in trying this myself so let me know how it goes :smile:

what i want to do myself though is potentiate the trip of shrooms without having effects from the rue itself though... and am wondering how much to take of each to have at least a 3.5 gram mush trip.

also wondering how long youd have to abstain from certain foods or whatever since its an maoi.


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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: Locus]
    #7573922 - 10/29/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

some people fast before and after, some people eat with the strict diet before and after, and either one (depending on who you ask) goes from 24 hours to 6 hours before the ingestion of an maoi.

I forget how long the after period is, but i waited about 8 hours (after the effects of the oral DMT wore off) before eating fresh cooked foods that didn't contain tyramine in then, and i was just fine. I've heard that 12 hours before, and 12 after is a good time frame. (could be wrong though. Im not too experienced with maoi's.)

The first time i tried rue, i had about 5 grams (which was a mistake i think.). It wasn't too bad, i didn't throw up, and i chewed it and drank it with water. The taste was terrible, but for some reason better then when i ground it up and put it into a shot and drank it the second time around.

2 grams of syrian rue shouldn't put too much "rue-ness" into the trip. The thing is, I've always heard that you should take at least 3 grams for potentiation with rue, but everyone seems to disagree and tells me that 2 is plenty. I've been told to take less than 2 by some people as well. So that is what I'm doing.


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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7573939 - 10/29/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok, well... what about that dosing question i was talking about, know anything about that?


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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: Locus]
    #7573948 - 10/29/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

haha sorry i edited it to anwser that, and then you posted. but the anwser is in my second post.

>>The first time i tried rue, i had about 5 grams (which was a mistake i think.). It wasn't too bad, i didn't throw up, and i chewed it and drank it with water. The taste was terrible, but for some reason better then when i ground it up and put it into a shot and drank it the second time around.

2 grams of syrian rue shouldn't put too much "rue-ness" into the trip. The thing is, I've always heard that you should take at least 3 grams for potentiation with rue, but everyone seems to disagree and tells me that 2 is plenty. I've been told to take less than 2 by some people as well. So that is what I'm doing.

(all of that was edited later, you are still a good reader)


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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7573975 - 10/29/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah its weird cus ive read that just a half a gram to a gram of rue is good to potentiate shrooms and more is not a good idea. and other times ive read more than that is better. so im not exactly sure.

anyway sorry i couldnt answer your own thread's question :grin:
haha... but i hope you have a great trip over the weekend!!! :smile:

and i will surely be trying to potentiate my shrooms at some point with rue also :smile:


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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: Locus]
    #7574017 - 10/29/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

half a gram to a gram? damnit... now you're making me unsure... :sad:
I'll read up on more trip reports and do more research. Damn you people and your varying opinions...


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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7574120 - 10/29/07 07:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

There are many reliable places where you can read about the fact that it takes 2.5-3 grams of rue to assure full mao-inhibition.

As for the trip..................

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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: yageman]
    #7574142 - 10/29/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

As for the trip..................

SNAKES!!!





now thats why i started this thread. :lol: very good vibes from that. (i'll read that again before i embark)


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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7574233 - 10/29/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I ate 5 grams of rue and 5 grams of shrooms one time, fucking intense.

I would advise against a dose of a rue that high I didn't throw up but I felt pretty sick the entire time and TRIPPED BALLS for like 8-9 hours. That was my only rue experience and it was on WAY higher of a does than was necessary I would stick around 2 grams. I would also consider doing an extraction on the rue as it is not that difficult, and you can avoid any stomach discomfort if you do this as some of the harmala alkoloids in rue can make you feel pretty sick (some people report no ill effects if you take a smaller dose 2g or less).

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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: disturbed]
    #7574273 - 10/29/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

rue hasn't made me sick in the past. My stomach handles it pretty well. As i said, i took 5 grams once, and i felt no nausea until about 30 minutes after i drank the brew i made from psychotria viridis (i drank the brew 30 minutes after i had the last bite of rue). I know for a fact it was the viridis that did me in too. I felt it hit immediately after i drank it.

The time frame is the thing i'm worried about. I dont want it to exceed 9 hours. but seeing as you did a whole shitload and it lasted 9 hours, i think i'll be good with my dose. :smile:

Edit: also, could you tell me what your experience was like? what were the highlights?


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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7575422 - 10/30/07 04:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so with 2 grams of rue and 2 grams of mush would you feel the rue? and how many mushies would that equate to as if you didnt take the rue? sorry for making you more confused when i said about the smaller doses but thats what ive read so, haha.. ya know.. just saying..


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Re: getting prepped for rue+mushrooms [Re: Locus]
    #7575932 - 10/30/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ahhh good ole rue.

Back when I was a noob tripper I got some rue to take while I was tripping. Some people say that they can feel the rue but to tell you the truth I have never actually felt anything from just rue. I do admit though that the mushrooms trip feels a little bit different. It isn't quite the same, but it is still a great time.

I usually take a quarter ounce of mushrooms when I dose so I took 3 grams of rue and 3.5 grams of shrooms. This gave me a really nice trip that lasted for about 9 hours. I tripped like that for a while then I thought I would step it up a bit. I have always wanted to push it to the limit. Well I stepped it up too much. Be careful because rue + mushrooms will really destroy you if you dose wrong. I planned on eating 3.5 grams of rue with 5 grams of mush. WEll my scale was on the wrong setting so I ended up dosing like 5 grams rue + 7.5 grams of mush. That night was the only bad trip I have ever had.

That trip really made me nervous about tripping. That over a year ago and I am finally able to trip without getting nervous.

As for the diet restrictions please stick to them strictly. Fine a list of foods that cannot be eaten with MAOI and DO NOT EAT ANY OF THEM. I have heard of people eating some of them with no consequences, but you could actually die there so I don't think i would like to take the risk. IF I am doing rue I fast for 2 days before and 2 days after. I pretty much eat just grain type foods. The day of the trip I don't eat anything until I am coming down.

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