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OfflineCrystal G
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Re: Mentally abusing children with religion [Re: PsychedelicPhish]
    #7581174 - 10/31/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i got kicked out of high school and was forced to go to a baptist private school for 1 year. crazy fundamentalist school--taught creationism, rock is the devil, that women should remain subservient to their husbands despite physical abuse, seriously the most blasphemous shit... and SO many kids from that school were fucked up in the head. a lot of them became drug addicts (i bumped into a few at dealers' houses and was quite surprised), very few of them actually moved on to university/college, they were just doing the total opposite of what the doctrines were teaching. shit, i ended up bumping into one from that school in the same mental institution we were locked at. he probably went crazy and cracked from having such a conservative, strict family.


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Re: Mentally abusing children with religion [Re: PsychedelicPhish]
    #7581275 - 10/31/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Strong point.


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Re: Mentally abusing children with religion [Re: Crystal G]
    #7581284 - 10/31/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I believe to this day that much of what drives me bonkers and is fuel for my frequent states of depression was the result of my baptist abusive upbringing. Among other things.


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Re: Mentally abusing children with religion [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7581375 - 10/31/07 03:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

>I think it's not right to attack religion as the only form of indoctrination.
I guess it's a good thing that I wasn't then huh? :eyebrow:

Nor did I ever speak negatively of indoctrination itself.  I think the indoctrination of a child is important and necessary in the raising of a child because it helps to ensure that the child will mature into an individual who is fully capable of interacting within his/her cultural setting, abiding by the widely accepted ethical and moral standards.

I don't equate the word "indoctrination" with "brainwashing" at all.  What I was questioning in my post essentially was whether or not parents should stop and think before imposing radical personal beliefs on their children.

Again, I can understand their position and I respect their conviction but in regards to my experience, the religion that my parents imposed on me at a very young age brought no comfort, no hope, no happiness - only fright, hopelessness, loneliness and suffering were felt.  It has been a detriment to my personal growth and has overshadowed many of my younger years in misery.  But I don't for a second blame my parents for doing what they did, I have no negative feelings towards them in regards to our shared history on the subject.

Being taught how to tie my shoes, answer the phone, introduce myself, blar blar blar - those were helpful things.  Those and all the other things I learned at my parents hands during those years are all part of the same indoctrination that the religious teachings were a part of.  This brings us back to the beginning of my post.


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Re: Mentally abusing children with religion [Re: PsychedelicPhish]
    #7581560 - 10/31/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was brought up Catholic but towards the end of high school I pretty threw out all the Catholicism I learned. I don't understand how parents can teach kids about religion when really as a kid some things cannot be understood. I used to wonder how Jesus could be with me at all times or how praying could answer my questions. They can't. I figured out you have to your will power.


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Re: Mentally abusing children with religion [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #7586195 - 11/02/07 12:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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jonathanseagull said:
Indoctrination of the young is definitely nothing more than brainwashing. As you said, I'm sure 99% have good intentions. It's a bad cycle, from parent to child to grandchild, etc. The way I see it, it is up to each current generation to break the cycle.




Its also to blame for long blood feuds and other long standing bad traditions found all over the world.

I wish parents had the conviction in their own beliefs to let children grow up and then decide for themselves.

But then again, if this was done by everyone, in 1-2 generations religious worship would dramatically decline.


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