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Offlinelearningtofly
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Does humanity serve a purpose?
    #7571056 - 10/28/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Like whats the point really? Well for that matter does anything serve a purpose?


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: learningtofly]
    #7571063 - 10/28/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

P&S?


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: learningtofly]
    #7571064 - 10/28/07 09:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Well for that matter does anything serve a purpose?




exactly


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: demiu5]
    #7571069 - 10/28/07 09:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What's P&S?


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: learningtofly]
    #7571077 - 10/28/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Philosophy and Spirituality forum. There is no point to any of this, really. We're just supposed to keep going. Thats what we're programed for. Survival. Life on earth is a random occurrence. We're not special. We need to to stop thinking that way. Survival is the reason, there is no point. Don't need one.


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: robbyberto]
    #7571083 - 10/28/07 09:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ohhh, yeah I guess that should go there but I pondered this whilst in a semi-psychedelic experience.


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: learningtofly]
    #7571148 - 10/28/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

There is no such thing as purpose when dealing with things not created by man. There is no "god" that designed us, therefore we have no purpose, all we have are functions. Most people seem to agree that being happy and making sure everyone is doing alright would be the ultimate goal, this stems from the evolutionary mentality of doing what's best for the group to ensure survival. My personal hopes for humanity would include the rapid expansion of scientific thought and science in general. I hope one day that we can meet an intelligent alien race and work with them to discover the secrets of the universe and share what we know with them. This can not happen until we learn to stop killing shit because it's different from us. (and just to clear it all up, NO I don't believe in god and YES I do believe in aliens. May sound weird to you but aliens are statistically likely while god is definitely not)


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: Psilocin Dreams]
    #7571211 - 10/28/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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May sound weird to you but aliens are statistically likely while god is definitely not





Ohhh yeah, I forgot how statistically likely it is that everything came together by chance.


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #7571220 - 10/28/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If the multiverse theory is correct (and quantum physics is making it look very likely) then it is very statistically likely everything came together by chance.


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: Ness1]
    #7571229 - 10/28/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

*puts on tinfoil hat and grabs a bible*
Another one of these threads...


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #7571233 - 10/28/07 10:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

boxcarguy07 said:
Ohhh yeah, I forgot how statistically likely it is that everything came together by chance.




It's very unlikely. But given infinite time, I'm sure it could happen.


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: Psilocin Dreams]
    #7571249 - 10/28/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Perhaps you are right.

Of course, we'll never really know. I choose to believe in a God. You don't. That's cool.


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #7571297 - 10/28/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Does God believe in YOU? think about that one


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #7571395 - 10/28/07 10:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it is statistically likely that a person will think such a thought during a psychedelic effect.

unless you already have a strong core sense of what it is to be human,
the question of purpose may arise,
the question of origin may arise,
the question of death may arise.
these are all diversions from seeing what is happenning now -

I appreciate that when they arise they bring a sense of uncertainty, and that uncertainty keeps the mind open.
Answering such questions, however, is ridiculous, even though the quester seems earnest,
the core of interest is someplace else.

does a tree have a purpose?
man can take it and make products, wood and paper or fire.
but that is not the purpose of the tree, merely a diversion of it's potential.
during it's life the tree makes fruit/nuts oxygen shade and harbours micro environments.
but that is not the purpose of the tree, merely a fulfillment of it's potential.
no one thing is ever the purpose of the tree.
all the things together are the life and potential of the tree, and that is too multifarious for a purpose.

we are even more complex than a tree, so purpose is an even more ridiculous thing to map upon our lives.
far easier to say the purpose of a nail or the purpose of a flash memory card.

immerse in the moment
and leave purpose to those who must knot their brows,
which never helps thinking, by the way - a clear brow is the way to go 100%.


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7571484 - 10/28/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

no human thing is of serious importance

-Plato


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: pong]
    #7571524 - 10/28/07 11:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Does the universe serve a purpose without intelligence to observe and react to it?


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: Hershey]
    #7571532 - 10/28/07 11:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well since intelligence cannot exist without a universe or place if you will to exist intelligence is a characteristic of the universe.

so the universe is actually observing itself which in my view is pretty damned pointless.


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: pong]
    #7571545 - 10/29/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

my belief is the universe needed to expel a great amount of energy via sentient beings. otherwise the universe would explode and then there wouldn't be any captain crunch.. get my drift?


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: ThePeruvianTorch]
    #7571645 - 10/29/07 01:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"Do life forms exist to create D.N.A molecules or do D.N.A molecules exist to create life forms?"- Taken from a space tribe song.

To me an aware being living and experiencing things is the greatest reason for anything. Awareness is the greatest miracle of all.


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Re: Does humanity serve a purpose? [Re: pong]
    #7571660 - 10/29/07 01:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Eh, Plato is overrated in my book. Him and the Greek ethos.


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