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'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger
#7570662 - 10/28/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger October 29, 2007 - independent.co.uk
Already facing enough problems with the wild fires that have swept California, the state's governor Arnold Schwarzenegger may have stepped into a new row by claiming that marijuana is not a drug. In an interview with GQ magazine, the Hollywood star turned governor of California insisted: "I didn't take any drugs."
The interviewer, former Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan, put it to the star that he had admitted smoking marijuana in the past. In Pumping Iron, the bodybuilding documentary which launched his career 30 years ago, he was shown taking a drag on a spliff.
"That is not a drug. It's a leaf," said Austrian-born Mr Schwarzenegger, 60. "My drug was pumping iron, trust me," he added.
When George Butler's critically acclaimed 1977 documentary Pumping Iron was re-released in 2002, before Mr Schwarzenegger ran for governor of California, he was unconcerned by the scene showing him smoking marijuana, saying – in a pointed reference to former US president Bill Clinton who claimed never to have inhaled: "I did smoke a joint and I did inhale. The bottom line is that's what it was in the Seventies, that's what I did. I have never touched it since." Mr Schwarzenegger said that it was not necessarily a matter of public interest whether politicians had taken class-A drugs.
He said: "What would you rather have? A politician taking the stuff and not saying, but making the best decisions and improving things? Or a politician who names the drugs he or she has taken but makes lousy decisions for the country?"
The Republican governor, renowned for his green policies, said Washington had not done enough on the environment. "So we pick up the slack and show the rest of the world America is not just Washington. There are 600 mayors in America who have joined the Kyoto treaty. For us, it is very important that America gets back the great reputation it once had."
He said: "I think we have to do everything we can as a country to get out of the Iraq war, and to take a lead on the environment."
Despite his insistence that the US must finish the war in Iraq, Mr Schwarzenegger included Tony Blair in a list of the greatest leaders in history, alongside Nelson Mandela, John F Kennedy, Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev.
Asked if he would include US President George W Bush on the list, Schwarzenegger - a Republican - said: "I would say that I was ... very fond of his father. I worked for President Bush Senior and he was a great man."
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: veggie]
#7570708 - 10/28/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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IT's a Flower, not a leaf.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: veggie]
#7570856 - 10/28/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: LayYouIn]
#7570891 - 10/28/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's both!
Or it's a yummy finger of hash. Or it's honey oil. Or it's a meal, or a shirt, or a life saving medication. Or a perfume.
Or in my case, a cure for alcohol and nicotine addiction.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: Visionary Tools]
#7571090 - 10/28/07 09:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i remember my rehab counselors telling me pot was just leaves and i kept telling them its a flower...then they went on about no one that smokes pot will ever be successful. rehab was fun. got to straighten some dick heads out on shit.
schwarzenegger should have passed the hemp farming bills if this is how he feels. maybe he will pass the next one.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: veggie]
#7571094 - 10/28/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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no, it's most definitely a drug (didn't read article)
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: demiu5]
#7571271 - 10/28/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well either way... one small leap forward for the rights of potheads everywhere
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: BrAiN]
#7571496 - 10/28/07 11:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seriously. The Drug War always seems to be "One Step forward....Two Steps Back" When it comes to Pro Drug use.
This however was 1 step forward that caint reverse!
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: veggie]
#7571531 - 10/28/07 11:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by EntheogenicPeace (01/30/21 06:59 PM)
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#7571611 - 10/29/07 12:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Arnold says "Who told you you could smoke my pot, with my family!"
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: demiu5]
#7571630 - 10/29/07 12:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
demius said: no, it's most definitely a drug (didn't read article)
No, if you got into the technicalities, THC is the drug, marijuana is a plant that contains THC and many other chemicals.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: Maverick]
#7571696 - 10/29/07 01:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure he's speaking to the ignorant masses when he uses the word drug. Like most straight-edges think the word drug automatically implies bad. So since marijuana is a "drug" its bad. An illegal drug. He's just saying it's not a drug (like that), its just a damned harmless plant. Which should be obvious, but lots of people are lacking.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: StreetFreak]
#7571807 - 10/29/07 03:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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good for the terminator. that is awesome
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: veggie]
#7572211 - 10/29/07 08:13 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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We need more Arnold Schwarzenegger's in office! 
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: TacticalBongRip]
#7572986 - 10/29/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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> We need more Arnold Schwarzenegger's in office!  
Absolutely not. It was just two weeks ago that he vetoed the hemp farming bill, again. (he vetoes it every year).
I voted for him because I thought that it was funny to see a movie star kick a politician out of office. I learned my lesson and will never vote for a republican again.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7573119 - 10/29/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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GO ARNOLD!!! If more reps where like him it would be a different party!!! A true republican would not have gotten us into the war! Historically reps have been voted in to end wars! (Korea, Vietnam). Weird how principals go out the window when there is money to be made! Greedy greedy politicians, all of them no matter what party they belong too.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: veggie]
#7573220 - 10/29/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
"My drug was pumping iron, trust me," he added.
Ban pumping iron!!! Ban, ban!!!
Oh wait, pumping iron is pro government agenda...
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: Ego Death]
#7573278 - 10/29/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ego Death said: "My drug was pumping iron, trust me," he added.
Didn't he use steroids?
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: Robo]
#7573587 - 10/29/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know it's just false hope but maybe Arnold can get California to legalize or become more lax about marijuana, the way Canada has. Then maybe next time legalization tries to comes through Nevada we can pass it. 52% against 48%. It was SOOO CLOSE!
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: DarkLotus55]
#7574430 - 10/29/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: DarkLotus55]
#7574449 - 10/29/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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DarkLotus55 said: I know it's just false hope but maybe Arnold can get California to legalize or become more lax about marijuana, the way Canada has. Then maybe next time legalization tries to comes through Nevada we can pass it. 52% against 48%. It was SOOO CLOSE!
Damnit, damnitdamnitdamnit! I hate this state!
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: veggie]
#7575583 - 10/30/07 07:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mari Juana is a girl from Cuba, who's name was given to Cannabis to link it to "dirty mexicans".
Call it by it's name - Cannabis - Arnold!
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: veggie]
#7577187 - 10/30/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Am I the only one who thinks it was a dumb thing to say? I interpret "marijuana is not a drug" as saying "Yes we know drugs are bad, but marijuana is not a drug, so it's not bad."
Of course it's a drug.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#7579361 - 10/31/07 03:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's really more of an opinion, you really have to define what a drug is - and that usually results in splitting hairs.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: DebuteMachine]
#7579400 - 10/31/07 04:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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DebuteMachine said: Arnold says "Who told you you could smoke my pot, with my family!"
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: AJ4U]
#7579657 - 10/31/07 07:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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... if you asked "The Govt." WHY it was illegal... what do yall think the BEST reason that they couldn't come up with... I'd like to just hear ONE! decent argument for it being illegal, (in the face of such overwhelming benifits of legalization...) ... can anybody come up with anything? ...its like he said "ITS A FUCKIN LEAF!
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7639990 - 11/15/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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hope this thread isnt to old to bump (15 days) but I think while we had a big margin here in Colorado for the same legalization(despite the fact that we have the highest percentage of per capita tokers from what I hear, and I believe it frankly) and that Denver approved it, the margin was less than they thought (I had a feeling it wouldnt pass, voted anyway)
I like how the DEA states people where tricked into thinking it was something else, but it was clear english on the ballot (would you like to approve up to one ounce of personal use marijuana for adults 21 and over) blatant lie on their part. BLATANT.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#7640003 - 11/15/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you guys get a chance, download a speech called "THE GREEN WEDGE" by Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys. It's a 10 minute history lesson, or rant, about how marijuana became illegal.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: BrAiN]
#7640198 - 11/15/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it in any way factual?
Its probably not the best idea to get your information about actual events from punk rock musicians.
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Re: 'Marijuana is not a drug, it's a leaf,' says Schwarzenegger [Re: Madtowntripper]
#7641061 - 11/15/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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True.. Jello Biafra though got out of music (except for a few projects) and owning a record label a while back and got into politics. I haven't fact checked his statements.... but I might look into it.
Give it a listen though...
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