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chrisj893
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Peruvian Torch
#7570220 - 10/28/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey All, this is my first post, and i jsut have a couple questions about the peruvian torch. I feel like this has been answered all over this board, but i still dont have a concerte understanding. If i buy online, 50grams of Peruvian Torch
http://psychoactiveherbs.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=133_122&products_id=290&osCsid=6c4cc0d7006da83935e3c7911f6835cf
how do i extract that stuff into the green gooey slime that i drink?? I havnt really found a striaght forawd step by step answer.
Thanks
p.s. i do have a pressure cooker...
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chrisj893
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Re: Peruvian Torch [Re: chrisj893]
#7570599 - 10/28/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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And how much of the green stuff should i take?
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Re: Peruvian Torch [Re: chrisj893]
#7570921 - 10/28/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_preparation5.shtml
You shouldn't need the pressure cooker for anything.
If you use a section of cactus that's about a foot long and 3-4 inches wide you should be good to use all the resulting "tea".
Personally, I've had better results with San Pedro than P. Torch but I only tried the latter once and it wasn't the biggest section of it.
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truffleupagus


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Sorry. I missed the part about you buying 50 grams dried.
I would actually advise against that. First of all, I think that site ships from China so you'll have something containing a schedule I chemical that's already basically prepared for consumption being shipped to you and it'll have to go through customs. Bad idea.
I suggest you find another site and order a 12 or 18 inch cutting. Cuttings are less risky because you could be getting it with the intention of rooting it. No one's gonna actually believe that you're using dried cactus chips for incense. It'll be worth it to do a little more work. Trust me.
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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Search youtube for "cooking with mescaline"
After you use/make an account and confirm your birthdate, you have a 2 minute video covering the entire process.
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chrisj893
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ill just buy some cuttings somewhere how LONG a cutting should i use for 1 person? how long for 2 people
Edited by chrisj893 (10/29/07 02:43 PM)
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truffleupagus


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Quote:
truffleupagus said: If you use a section of cactus that's about a foot long and 3-4 inches wide you should be good to use all the resulting "tea".
I guess you missed this.
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Ophanim
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Ebay has some pretty good prices on both these and San P. I find web suppliers for this type of thing way too expensive by comparison.
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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Re: Peruvian Torch [Re: Ophanim]
#7576224 - 10/30/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You never know if you're getting anything good fom ebay though. Have you had good success with ebay cuttings?
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chrisj893
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i tihnk im going to get a 12' inch cutting of san pedro...but i dont think i will be able to boil it in my house...
i found this method online ( http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/mes05.htm )
1) cutting: If using a live plant, cut off the portion of the cactus that you wish to consume, leaving a viable portion to grow. This is important, especially if one later discovers this individual cactus has special properties. It is best to take a middle section (if the cactus is tall enough) leaving both the apical and rooted section to grow.
If using a san pedro cutting, a piece 6 inches to 12 inches long is recommended. When you have an idea of what a certain amount does, you can adjust the dose size to suit your particular next time you try.
2) washing: The cutting is washed in water, running a finger up and down the grooves.
3) de-spining: The spines are cut out removing as little of the valuable green tissue as possible.
4) de-skinning: Cuts are made down the grooves. The skin is pulled up attempting to keep a piece going as long as possible. It helps to pull as much as possible from the groove outward.
5) sectioning: cuts are made from the grooves to the core and the sections are pulled away from the core. Pieces of core remaining on the sections are cut off. The core is discarded.
6) freezing: The sections are placed in a freezer for several hours until thoroughly frozen.
7) grinding: The frozen sections are chopped up and ground, and the pulp filtered to collect the liquid. The pulp is ground more and filtered, adding only a little water on the second and third grindings.
8) drinking: The collected liquids are drunk as quickly as possible without gaging or regurgitating.
9) eating: The remaining solids are consumed.
it looks good and the author of the site later says that it produced a very good trip Will this method work?? Do you guys have anyother methods on making San Pedro 'tea' without boiling anything?
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chrisj893
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Re: Peruvian Torch [Re: chrisj893]
#7715464 - 12/04/07 01:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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BUMP
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cpw1971
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Re: Peruvian Torch [Re: chrisj893]
#7715576 - 12/04/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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get Bridgesii if you can. It is more potent. also if you dont want to taste the worst bitter taste ever besides Ayahuasca then I would dry out little chips and break them into pill sized pieces and just swallow with water.
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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Re: Peruvian Torch [Re: chrisj893]
#7718681 - 12/05/07 07:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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1. TAKE CACTUS
2. BOIL IN WATER
3. DRINK WATER
Figure the rest out yourself through trial and error and experience LIKE THE REST OF US DID!
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thedudenj
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theres a good deal of places that have dried stuff in the americas
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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Sorry, didn't read your stipulation that it not be boiled.
I can't think of any way to make cactus without boiling, at least not in a way that would be conceivable to drink or consume.
Have you ever tasted cactus? A bite of the green skin tastes almost as bad as a concentrated shot, so there is no way I could ever get down a large amount of the stuff, making boiling a requirement.
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if you want pure mescaline, you can find a acid-base tech on erowid any questions about any drugs, check erowid, that site is very informative, theyre the ones that turned me on to shrooms
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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You can find a BETTER acid-base tek right here on the forum.
Maybe you guys need more posts to access it though.
You shouldn't try something like that until you're familiar with preparing the cactus anyway.
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thedudenj
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honestly i find P torch fresh to taste fine specially if you made a salade out of that maybe mix in some onions and cucumber. sprinkle bacon bits and ranch. sounds great. dried powder on the other hand make a tea or iso. extract for sure. dont eat, unless your a certain few my friend kinda prefers eating it raw as powder over brewing it and gets no nausea but that could be due to special reasons. any who YEAH
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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Re: Peruvian Torch [Re: thedudenj]
#7721561 - 12/05/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's crazy, man. I couldn't physically do that...
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NEPHROSIS
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Ewww haha...I just imagine vomitting all of that cactus salad.
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implee
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Re: Peruvian Torch [Re: NEPHROSIS]
#7722575 - 12/05/07 11:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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"but i dont think i will be able to boil it in my house..." kid alert
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cpw1971
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Re: Peruvian Torch [Re: implee]
#7723194 - 12/06/07 06:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Methanol extractions work great as long as you have a good place to evap it.
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