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OfflineTheHauntingSoul
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cakes not pinning!!!
    #7569293 - 10/28/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok first of all heres a link to my older thread describing exactly the techniques i've used thus far:
old thread

anyways i birthed 2 cakes 2 weeks ago, 1 cake 1 week ago and i'm doing 2 tonight... the last one in a couple of days

the first 2 cakes have developed little fuzzy mycelium 'bumps' but no pins or fruits yet, the 2nd one hasnt really developed at all.

I'm wondering if i should use a diff technique on the remaining 3 cakes... or something else on the current 3?

Maybe its my light... its a very low wattage incadescent light, maybe its fae but i fan 2-3 times a day vigorously.

as for moisturizer i have moist perlite and it keeps the terrarium at about 80% although the calibration could be off... i stopped misting the cakes because i read somewhere that the water droplets kill the mycelium.

What should i do? i want at least enough fruits to trip once!!!

also i was thinking of switching to bags or w/e they called. not sure if i'm allowed to ask this but can someone pm me with the best kind i can order?

anyways yeah if anyone has some advice as to how i can save this harvest.... just enough to get even just a couple g's and i'd be happy

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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
    #7569308 - 10/28/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

try to get the humidity higher and buy a better light if you can. go to petsmart or something and buy one of those little fishtank lights.


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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7569339 - 10/28/07 10:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

should i mist more? does the mist harm the cakes?

also is flourescent better for the cakes or does it not matter?

as for humidity... is it possible to oversaturate your perlite with negative results? how much water should be standing in with the perlite or should the perlite just be moist?

Also how to calibrate my hygrometer? i heard something about a bag and salt.


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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
    #7571575 - 10/29/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
    #7571629 - 10/29/07 12:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what's your humidity?

mist can hurt primordia so i lay off the misting as soon as i see primordia then once pins are set i keep the misting going.florescent works.....But the best would be something in the blue spectrum of light which is about 6,000-7,500 Kelvin range.No water should be standing in the terrarium you want rinsed well drained (moist) perlite in the terrarium.Salt is a bad way to test a hygrometer since it only goes up to 75% wrap the hygrometer in a damp(not soaking wet) towel for an hour or so and calibrate it to 98-99%.


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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7572436 - 10/29/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for the help... for the light would it be better to get a small fluorescent uva or uvb bulb?

oh and my humidity is about 80% how can i make it higher without misting?


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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
    #7572864 - 10/29/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You can install a drip shield which is basically a slanted piece of smooth plastic that fits into your box with about half an inch of space around all the sides of it. Just screw in two bolts on one side and two bolts lower down on the other side. Then you can mist directly at the drip shield and your humidity will go up while any water droplets and condensation will collect on the shield and then run off and drip from the lower edge. Don't put any cakes within 1 inch of the lower edge.


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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: Psilocin Dreams]
    #7573089 - 10/29/07 01:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think it's just as effective to just spray the sides of the fruiting chamber, with perlite on the bottom you should get enough humidity.


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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7573426 - 10/29/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah the spray shield was one of the odder inclusions in the PF kit. It has no real purpose.


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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7573863 - 10/29/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'd try faning a lot more. From looking at your other thread I think you're getting verry little FAE.


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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: cbiegel]
    #7574921 - 10/29/07 11:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for the help everyone

So what kind of light should i get? fluorescent? any particular kinds/voltages? And when you say blue like a blue nighttime light for reptiles would be good?

as for fanning, how many times a day should i fan? i've heard 2-3 isnt so bad but i guess it might be.

again any suggestions as to how i can save this crop and even get just a little bit of mushrooms would be awesome, its been over 2 months since inoculation, 5/6 jars are in the FC now and 2 of them have what appears to be tiny white bumps (primordia maybe?) one cake is bruised to shit i thought it was mould at first but it never grew can i expect any mushrooms in the bruised spots?

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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
    #7575445 - 10/30/07 05:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You want a light that has a colour temperature of between 6000k-7000k.

You can get a compact fluerescent thats about 6500K and should give of light that looks like this, or if you u need to cover a bigger area then a full sized fluerescent in that color temp range



or if you u need to cover a bigger area then a full sized fluerescent in that color temp range


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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7582190 - 10/31/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

how the hell do you keep the humidity up? either my hygrometer is broken or i suck, how much misting does it take to get it up to 100%?

also how many times a day is optimal for fanning the FC out?

if i get these last 2 questions answered i won't have to post these relentless questions anymore lol


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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
    #7582678 - 10/31/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Your misting is highly unlikely to do much significant to the RH. You need more perlite, if anything. Hygrometers need to be calibrated frequently; I don't know what your reading is, but if it hasn't been calibrated in a while it could be significantly off.

You need to exchange air a full 3-4 times an hour optimally. No amount of fanning will come close to this, so it's best to design a fruiting chamber that does the work for you.


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Re: cakes not pinning!!! [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7582692 - 10/31/07 11:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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You need to exchange air a full 3-4 times an hour optimally. No amount of fanning will come close to this, so it's best to design a fruiting chamber that does the work for you.




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