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I need help understanding salvia..
    #7568615 - 10/28/07 03:59 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Well, This is probably my 3rd time smoking salvia. I bought 20x, and smoked it out of a bong on some weed... Sprinkled a little amount over the weed and I started feeling a little body effect, but new I smoked too little.

So I tried again about an hour later with a little bowl a few pinches, and it was more intense but still I don't know if I can exactly call it a trip at all compared to LSD or Mushrooms. There were no visuals but I got the same feel in my body and I fall deep into my head. A friend of mine tried talking to me but I don't really feel like talking, kind of dissassociated(?)

My question is, am I just not smoking enough, or is this a big aspect of the trip. I feel like the effects on the body can be pretty intense but I was not getting any CEVs if I was they were very dark..

I dunno can anyone help me out here, What is a weak trip of salvia like, or are there only the trips that you smoke a large bown and get ripped out of the universe.. I want to see the know what is in the middle. How to get there. I don't want to be blasted out.


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: Phishe]
    #7568630 - 10/28/07 04:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah you pretty much have to smoke as much as you can before it takes you. You definately have hallucinations which can be pretty intimidating but it only lasts a minute or two so you shouldn't get too freaked out.


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: Yosefxp]
    #7568685 - 10/28/07 05:03 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

when you smoke enough you will know... end of story


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: Phishe]
    #7568811 - 10/28/07 07:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

tell more about your body effects
going into another world is preceeded by intense body effects and maybe some visuals. some people will be preoccupied with body effects, like gravity and not notice any visuals.
the trip is short enough that if preoccupied with gravity or body intensification, the other interesting things may not be observed.
you could double the qtty until strong intensification occurs on body effect, then add increments so that you will still respect yourself in the morning.


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7569036 - 10/28/07 09:46 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

one hit of 20x should send you off. make sure you hold it in for a long time. what kind of salvia are you smoking?


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: ohmyradical]
    #7569280 - 10/28/07 11:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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one hit of 20x should send you off. make sure you hold it in for a long time. what kind of salvia are you smoking?




he's right, its very important you hold it in as long as possible. one hit should do it for you this way.


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7570698 - 10/28/07 09:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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tell more about your body effects
going into another world is preceeded by intense body effects and maybe some visuals. some people will be preoccupied with body effects, like gravity and not notice any visuals.
the trip is short enough that if preoccupied with gravity or body intensification, the other interesting things may not be observed.
you could double the qtty until strong intensification occurs on body effect, then add increments so that you will still respect yourself in the morning.




I was hoping you would reply to my thread. The body effects is basically a feeling like my body isn't really what it was... It is very heavy and kind of "droopy" like it's falling to the floor. It's almost like I have new skin or a new body.

For those of you who said you only need 1 hit of 20x. That's what I've been doing. Taking a pretty large rip and holding it in for 20 sec or 30 sec. I'm don't want to do too much and end up like others, because I know that's not how you really smoke salvia unless you are an idiot.. I have friends who think you need to cash a bowl to your head.


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: Phishe]
    #7570801 - 10/28/07 10:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think you are going to get much out of it until you have blasted off into a breakthrough dose. You get to know and understand salvia somewhat when you do that. Afterwards you will notice more from lower doses.


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: Phishe]
    #7570821 - 10/28/07 10:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

the feeling of heaviness is quite common and very strong sometimes. on several occasions i have find myself literally crawling to a bed or chair, and sometimes the distance is no more than two or three meters. the effects on the body can be very intense and can be very distracting from others aspects of the experience. i have also found that having my eyes open can be very distracting also. although having my eyes open and looking around at how weird things look can be fun, if you close your eyes and clear your head you con go to some rather outstanding places. although a lot of times having my eyes opened or closed makes no difference. :smile:


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: Phishe]
    #7570841 - 10/28/07 10:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you wont understand it until you do it on mushies


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: bonghittr]
    #7570869 - 10/28/07 10:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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you wont understand it until you do it on mushies




Can you elaborate on that a bit?


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7570946 - 10/28/07 10:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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bonghittr said:
you wont understand it until you do it on mushies




Can you elaborate on that a bit?




he doesn't really know either :wink:


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7570967 - 10/28/07 10:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

salvia + mushrooms = :crazy2:


you should try it sometime.


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: maggotz]
    #7571023 - 10/28/07 11:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have. I mix salvia with everything. Or vice versus. :smile:


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7571052 - 10/28/07 11:11 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:awesome:
ever done it with a little dmt? it's great.


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: maggotz]
    #7571115 - 10/28/07 11:30 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

LOL. Yes. I have recently done it with dmt, weed and alcohol. I just gave away about a gram of dmt. Most people around here don't even know what it is and I have blood pressure problems. No market value here for me but I had to get rid of it. I really shouldn't be doing it.

This is getting off topic though.

You don't need anything to experience salvia but salvia. Mixes though amazing, are simply refractions of sorts.

My point to the OP is that I personally think that you have to go where you don't want to go with the salvia in order to get to the place that you apear to seek.

It's a real challenge to play middle of the road with salvia.

It's not for everyone.


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7571139 - 10/28/07 11:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, salvia is amazing enough on its own.


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: maggotz]
    #7571384 - 10/29/07 12:46 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Well how do you guys feel about doing it alone?

I don't like doing it around my friends because I feel like they kind of ground me by trying to talk to me.. I like to be left alone and it's pretty annoying when my friend asks "Are you fucked up..."


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: Phishe]
    #7571425 - 10/29/07 01:00 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i usually do do it alone with my wife in the next room uninvolved, or beside me in bed.

by the way the droopy body and new skin experience can be taken as slightly immaterial experiences (level V- immaterial). the droopy body may even be a dream vision (level IV - visionary) as yet unrecognized for what it is.

you can keep doing what you are doing, and I think it will give up more to you as time passes. I think you are there, just don't know you are there.
(sure if you take too much you will know for sure in a different way, but for your character this is not an issue)


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Re: I need help understanding salvia.. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7571440 - 10/29/07 01:07 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

What do you mean by immaterial?

and what is level IV and level V can you elaborate please.

You are pretty experienced with salvia and your words make me comfortable thanks.


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