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The problem with certain forms of philosophical thinking
    #7566765 - 10/27/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Okay here's my thoughts. Poetic teachings are a great place to start, a great way to attune yourself to subtleties in life. For some, this helps them enjoy the small details in life they would miss otherwise.

If anything it helps you keep your sensitivity in an overstimulating culture, as well as maintain your sanity from a culture constantly telling you to want more. This is a moment to ourselves were we work to preserve our self.

But a healthy dose of physics, math, and physcology are needed to balance out the eccentric parts of spirituality. Don't spend all your time meditating towards a fictional or merely self satisfying nirvana. Try to conceptualize tesseracts, visualize a color outside the visible spectrum, tinker around with something in the garage, be a positive figure in someones life...

my point is, do something where your efforts have results you can observe, proove, repeat and tweak for better results. I am not discounting your abilities to meditate, chant, dance around a fire naked, whatever. What I am saying is have results and prove your method. I say this because with many things people do only by themselves, they realize ther true limitations when doing it with others. Or they learn their limitations the hard way when they are asked to use their "Insert special skill here" to produce a result for a friend, boss, ect.

So in anything that you work to achieve in, work to become better at, practice and hone your skills, it needs to be put on trail. Working at something is useless unless you constantly fail and revamp the system.

I do not believe that "life" is justification for believing what you want. Perhaps the best test for philosophy is being able to change an external problem in the world, your life, or another person. If your philosophy and spirituality don't guide you towards positive changes or productive living (however you define it)- it's useless.

you all got the good intentions, do something worthwhile with it.You can't just listen to how you feel because feeling is the worst form of observation. Test your methods, analyze your results, and improve.


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Re: The problem with certain forms of philosophical thinking [Re: moon_glue]
    #7566780 - 10/27/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I do not believe that "life" is justification for believing what you want.

One does not need justification for belief. It's one of the only real freedoms you have IMO.


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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: The problem with certain forms of philosophical thinking [Re: Icelander]
    #7566848 - 10/27/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I do not believe that "life" is justification for believing what you want.

One does not need justification for belief. It's one of the only real freedoms you have IMO.




that was my main point. testing your beliefs. not just believing in whatever the hell you like because it satisfies your need for an answere and passifies you.

im asking people to test their beliefs as if it's a method, not believe that life is testing them in WHAT they believe.

TEST TEST and TEST
let the experiment be made.


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Re: The problem with certain forms of philosophical thinking [Re: moon_glue]
    #7567911 - 10/27/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The original post made me happy. All self-possesed, narcisisstic ego-maniacs wrapped up in their own '(non)truth' should read it.


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Re: The problem with certain forms of philosophical thinking [Re: Boots]
    #7575611 - 10/30/07 07:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Boots said:
The original post made me happy. All self-possesed, narcisisstic ego-maniacs wrapped up in their own '(non)truth'  should read it.




:thumbup:


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Re: The problem with certain forms of philosophical thinking [Re: moon_glue]
    #7578579 - 10/30/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

sah?


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Re: The problem with certain forms of philosophical thinking [Re: ShroomFan]
    #7579693 - 10/31/07 08:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

im not surprised.

a post with something along the lines of "give some examples your homebrewed brand of sprituality is worth a shit" gets few replies.


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Re: The problem with certain forms of philosophical thinking [Re: moon_glue]
    #7579926 - 10/31/07 09:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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moon_glue said:
I do not believe that "life" is justification for believing what you want. Perhaps the best test for philosophy is being able to change an external problem in the world, your life, or another person. If your philosophy and spirituality don't guide you towards positive changes or productive living (however you define it)- it's useless.

you all got the good intentions, do something worthwhile with it.You can't just listen to how you feel because feeling is the worst form of observation. Test your methods, analyze your results, and improve.




Great advice. My philosophy and spirituality results from living my life, and empowers me to more effectively navigate my life, as well as to embrace myself more fully in the present experience of reality. :mushroom2:


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Re: The problem with certain forms of philosophical thinking [Re: moon_glue]
    #7581400 - 10/31/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

moonglue:

Quote:

You can't just listen to how you feel because feeling is the worst form of observation.





Feeling is meant to be used in conjunction with other forms of perception with logic and common sense.

Quote:

TEST TEST and TEST
let the experiment be made.






Quote:

1 thess 5:21

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.




Quote:

1 cor. 2

4and my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,

5so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God.




Quote:

1 corinthians 4

20For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power.




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