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Black myc in syringe?! Wasn't there before. NOT SPORE CLUMPS
    #7566712 - 10/27/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Not sure if this is correct place to post this, but i spent a few days in the contam forum and didn't turn up anything. Hopefully the traffic here will help.

My cat has a syringe that she just got (about a week or two). A couple of them what appears to be black myc?! It's the exact same texture as the white myc floating around with it, but it's black. I don't really remember seeing it there before.

Can anyone tell me what this is, please?

Is it just myc that has is collecting spores like a net when shaken? That particular syringe looks to have a fingerprint like shape made of spores on the INSIDE of the syringe. It's been like that ever since it arrived. The spores that are in that syringe, don't look like the other spores, these are way smaller, more like dust than the clumps in the other ones.

They've been in the fridge so slow down the myc growth a bit (i'm not using right away).

Thanx in advance


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Re: Black myc in syringe?! Wasn't there before. NOT SPORE CLUMPS [Re: buggas]
    #7566745 - 10/27/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

unless you used a honey/karo/some sugar water solution for the syringe.. i dont see how myc could grow in a syringe with just water...


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Re: Black myc in syringe?! Wasn't there before. NOT SPORE CLUMPS [Re: This guy]
    #7568413 - 10/28/07 12:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You're right, and that's what she thought. But for some reason these have myc in them, at least they do now.

Unless it's a contam, but she got them from a reputable sponsor here. From what she knows, and have seen so far, they are good.

She's assuming there must have been some sort of nutrient in the water that the spores could germinate on. There was even some spore dust on the outside of the syringe. Probably from scraping the print.

She wasn't able to get to the syringes for a week, and from what i know, they were just sitting on the kitchen counter, still in the box. When she opened the box, She noticed that one of them had a bit of white floaty stuff inside, and she figured it to be myc. Then a few days later, it was a tiny bit more, and then even another syringe of the 4, started to show signs of myc. She's still pretty stoaked that she got some LC with no effort. Lazy fucking cat.

The 2 others show obvious spore clumping, but the ones with myc are puzzling. If it is myc, she put them in the fridge to slow it down, just like an LC syringe.

That's what's kinda puzzling her, the one with the black myc looked like it had no spores in it, then one day it has myc, and now the myc is turning black.

If it helps identification, that particular syringe has this finger print looking thing on the inside. Imagine the inside of the syringe is covered in a light layer of gray dust (or spores, whatever) then someone with a clean finger, made a finger print in that dust. That's what it looks like. Like if you LIGHTLY deposit carbon on a clear glass with a bic lighter, then put your finger print in it. That's what it looks like, but on the inside of the syringe, and she thinks the dust is possibly spores. Really, really, small spores (or clumps, since spores are too small to see anyway).

As long as the one with black myc in it is not contaminated, then she's cool. I just want to make sure since it doesn't look like the spore clumps in the other 2 syringes.

Sorry for the long post, i just want to make sure i give as many details. I'M SO SORRY for not including a picture(s), but trust me, looking at a bunch of blurry photos will show you nothing.

Black Myc?! maybe it's anti-mycelium?


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Re: Black myc in syringe?! Wasn't there before. NOT SPORE CLUMPS [Re: buggas]
    #7568446 - 10/28/07 12:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

knock up a jar and see what happens lol just be careful.


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Re: Black myc in syringe?! Wasn't there before. NOT SPORE CLUMPS [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7568847 - 10/28/07 05:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

spores are microscopic, so when well dispersed in water u wont seem them. U only see them when lots of them stick together.

But yeah thats a weird syringe


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Re: Black myc in syringe?! Wasn't there before. NOT SPORE CLUMPS [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7569462 - 10/28/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, can't hurt to knock up a jar. I'll keep everyone posted in case anyone else has a black myc situation.


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Re: Black myc in syringe?! Wasn't there before. NOT SPORE CLUMPS [Re: buggas]
    #7574021 - 10/29/07 06:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

knocked up a jar this morning with "Black Mike".

I wonder if the syringe became contaminated when changing from the plastic storage tip to the needle tip. Should i stop doing that?


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Re: Black myc in syringe?! Wasn't there before. NOT SPORE CLUMPS [Re: buggas]
    #7574027 - 10/29/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

not quite sure what you mean??

Syringes that i get, the needles come seperate. In a glove box, or infront of a laminar flow hood, u take the plastic cover of, then theres a little cap that u unscrew, then u fit your needle that came with the syringe, then u refit the plastic cover (not the cap u remove as it obvoisulty doesnt fit)

Remember that u should fit needles to your syringe in a sterile inviroment


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Re: Black myc in syringe?! Wasn't there before. NOT SPORE CLUMPS [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7584392 - 11/01/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, so update on the black myc...

Black (except for spores) = No Bueno!!

I knocked up a pf cake with the black myc and in 2 days, i had 4 streaks of greenish white going down the sides. Booooooo! Glad i didn't do 2 jars.

That same day i did 2 jars each of PES Hawaiian, and Transkei and today was the first sign of growth for each. It was only a small spot of white fuzz. But yesterday, the test jar was in full on mold growin' mode. Way more growth than any other jar (about 20% vs .1%).

I think, at least to me, this proves that contams can really get a foothold on your cakes about 200 times faster than the myc can... if they get in there.

Hell, I injected that shit in there and they went to town on that cake. I wish myc were that fast. Too bad that contam'd syringe was my cambodian (half full too! DAMN!!). It would have been nice to see how fast they can go.

BLACK FLOATY WHISPIES ARE EVIL
BLACK SINKING DOTS/CLUMPS ARE AWESOME

Good luck to all, i hope this helps.


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Re: Black myc in syringe?! Wasn't there before. NOT SPORE CLUMPS [Re: buggas]
    #7584531 - 11/01/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

contact your supplier to get a credit.. explain the situation (since it happened before you ever opened it)


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Re: Black myc in syringe?! Wasn't there before. NOT SPORE CLUMPS [Re: Slimz]
    #7588428 - 11/02/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well unfortunately i had used the syringe before. I think it got some open air contams when i was putting on the needle for the first time.

I have never seen a syringe without a needle before, much less ever handled one, so it was kinda confusing how to take that little plastic cap off. I didn't know whether to push, pull, pop, cut, or what to get that plastic thing off. Then i noticed the threads and figured out to twist it off. I twisted it off, and may have breathed on it or something. Maybe the needle was contaminated when i screwed it on.

Just to be safe, i keep my needles in alcohol now. Actually i was wondering if that's a good idea or not. If anyone has any experience or whatever, let me know. Should i just keep the needles on the syringes, and just use the needle cap to close? Seems like a bad idea since it doesn't keep the contents sealed from the outside air. Then again, neither does constantly putting on and taking off needles.

On the bright side, i didn't have an extra syringe and now that i do, i can use my more than ready LC's.

I'm considering it a sign from the universe that my syringe contaminated in time to use the LC's so i'm not too concerned with the credit or whatever. As far as I'm concerned, my LC's are like a bunch of free syringes anyway.

Thanks for the info though.


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