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OfflineGbBaker
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    #7566593 - 10/27/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Is it possible?


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: GbBaker]
    #7566684 - 10/27/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

why would you want to do such a thing.. living where you do!?

i have seen photos a specific strains being cultivated but i know its extremely hard and very pointless.


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: oh_ollie]
    #7566701 - 10/27/07 12:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"republic" of newfoundland?:lol:

Oh, you newfies are funny.


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: oh_ollie]
    #7566703 - 10/27/07 12:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Why would it be pointless to grow liberty caps? They're far superior to cubensis, that's for sure. Perhaps workman will see this and offer some tips. I've never tried because they're native to my area, so no need. I applaud anyone seeking a challenge.
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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7566724 - 10/27/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

surely it would be hard to grow such bulk amounts considering 50 is a trips worth?


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: oh_ollie]
    #7569905 - 10/28/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

bump


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: oh_ollie]
    #7570129 - 10/28/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

oh_ollie said:
surely it would be hard to grow such bulk amounts considering 50 is a trips worth?




Fifty? Are you speaking from personal experience?


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: GbBaker]
    #7570985 - 10/28/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Sure its possible. I'm doing some side experiments to determine a reliable method but it appears that not all strains are created equal. Some fruit indoors, some don't. Outdoors is more reliable if you live in the right climate. Currently the best results are from soaked and drained chopped straw mixed with 10-20% by volume shredded horse manure, sterilized in mycobags and spawned with liberty cap colonized grass seed. Fully colonized substrate planted outside in September gives heavy flushes druing October rains. Spring fruitings are common. Beds typically only fruit for one year before exhausted.


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: Workman]
    #7571085 - 10/28/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Workman, how heavily can they flush outside on one of the straw/manure mixes? Like any other so to speak?


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: Cheezit]
    #7571117 - 10/28/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It makes a lot of mushrooms in denser numbers than you find in nature, but they are small and it takes a great deal to amount to much weight (roughly 30 dry mushrooms/gram). Similar to Panaeolus cyanescens yields but they grow much slower. Definately not the species you want to grow for poundage.


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: Workman]
    #7571436 - 10/28/07 11:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ah specific thank you.  Figured as much. The 30/a gram perspective  :shocked: me.  So what maybe an 1/8th a sq'? :ooo:


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: Cheezit]
    #7571787 - 10/29/07 03:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Cultivating libs is a huge challenge; as Workman alludes to going into it with a specific yield expectation is simply unrealistic.


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7572450 - 10/29/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:ohwell:  gave me an idea.......  All I can say is, outdoor culture is a whole other world then indoors. 

Nothing like natural FAE, lighting, and humidity it's hard to beat.


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Re: Cultivating Libs [Re: Workman]
    #7572471 - 10/29/07 10:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Workman said:
Sure its possible. I'm doing some side experiments to determine a reliable method but it appears that not all strains are created equal. Some fruit indoors, some don't. Outdoors is more reliable if you live in the right climate. Currently the best results are from soaked and drained chopped straw mixed with 10-20% by volume shredded horse manure, sterilized in mycobags and spawned with liberty cap colonized grass seed. Fully colonized substrate planted outside in September gives heavy flushes druing October rains. Spring fruitings are common. Beds typically only fruit for one year before exhausted.




Now I wonder about making the substrate last longer. Could you plant some grass seed on it? Maybe top dress with some shredded manure as the grass grows.
Try to actually mimic it's natural habitat, like how you can just add more wood chips to a bed and mix it for the wood loving species.

just thinking out loud......


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