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JT



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wow...ssri's really potentiate weed
#7566456 - 10/27/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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one bowl of middies and a small glass of wine with my lexapro and i was full blown tripping. body buzz was almost overwhelming, walls were pulsing back and forth to my music, and everything that moved left 2 foot tracers.
anyone else tried this?
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
#7566526 - 10/27/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i will now.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
#7566838 - 10/27/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tracers will be permanent if you keep taking that shit. I was on lexapro for like a year and now im stuck with them, maybe I can sue... haha
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Deity208]
#7566840 - 10/27/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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ur sensory memory got fuked up
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
#7567499 - 10/27/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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lexapros make my pupils fucking huge. I never tripped on them, though. I don't take them every day, though.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Limerick]
#7567519 - 10/27/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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SSRI's damage your brain in the long run, don't be a fool, drop the shit. some natural/healthier supplements i would recommend -
deprenyl ashwagandha bacopa rhodiola rosea siberian ginseng american ginseng whole food b vitamins (not synthetic) whole food vitamin c (not synthetic) gotu kola l-theanine organic super foods
taken together they synergize and beat the shit out of ssri's in terms of long-term health.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: StagnantMind]
#7567567 - 10/27/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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StagnantMind said: SSRI's damage your brain in the long run, don't be a fool, drop the shit.
Just out of curiosity, do you know any sources at the top of your head that would support this?
I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just interested.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: MorphMan] 1
#7567698 - 10/27/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: StagnantMind]
#7567720 - 10/27/07 07:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow, that's a lot of sources, thanks dude. You didn't have to give that many, but that works. I've always been against SSRI's because I figured they were dangerous. What really freaks me out is the "brain zaps" that some people experience when discontinuing use. I'm gonna read up on that stuff though, peace out man.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: MorphMan]
#7567799 - 10/27/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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^I've gotten brain zaps once when I stopped taking Lexapro. They're horrible. Makes you wonder what the hell that drug is doing to you.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: StagnantMind]
#7567821 - 10/27/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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StagnantMind said: SSRI's damage your brain in the long run, don't be a fool, drop the shit. some natural/healthier supplements i would recommend -
deprenyl ashwagandha bacopa rhodiola rosea siberian ginseng american ginseng whole food b vitamins (not synthetic) whole food vitamin c (not synthetic) gotu kola l-theanine organic super foods
taken together they synergize and beat the shit out of ssri's in terms of long-term health.
Also: 70% of German physicians prefer St. John's Wort over SSRIs; and there's L-Tryptophan (naturally contained in many foods, most famously, turkey), which literally converts to serotonin in your brain (according to this post on Bluelight, it takes a day, though. I dunno.)
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StagnantMind said: whole food vitamin c (not synthetic)
Actually, Ester C is the best vitamin C. It's the newest discovered form of vitamin C; it enters the bloodstream twice as fast, penetrates cell walls more efficiently, and is held in the body twice as long as regular vitamin C.
Joan Mathews Larson, Ph.D., Depression-Free, Naturally
Edited by JunkFood (10/27/07 08:12 PM)
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JunkFood]
#7568069 - 10/27/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i totally agree about them being dangerous. i was precribed them about a month ago when trying to get some xanax and wasn't going to take them, but i had a serious breakdown last week and decided to give it a shot.
it's worked wonders for my anxiety/depression so far, but i don't plan to take it more than a few months if i can.
*and to junkfood, st. john's wort is an SSRI
Edited by justin_thyme (10/27/07 09:39 PM)
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Ness1]
#7568076 - 10/27/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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im not defending antidepressants, but come on... your so called "brain zaps" are going to happen when you discontinue many types of drugs... its called withdrawal.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
#7568484 - 10/28/07 12:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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justin_thyme said: *and to junkfood, st. john's wort is an SSRI
St. John's Wort is an herb. SSRIs are
Zoloft Celexa Paxil Luvox
Designer pharmaceutical drugs 
"St. John's Wort is an SSRI" 
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JunkFood] 1
#7568510 - 10/28/07 01:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah well anti-depressants are a poor way to get rid of behaviour as they only hide the symptoms...it's a fact in the scientific community. Even anti-psychotics should be avoided.
If you have a behavioural problem, you have to fix the behaviour. Not cover it up with drugs. I mean sure, in extreme cases where self harm or something like that is happening then they might be justified but only then.
Then when you stop taking the drugs the symptoms come right back but on top of that you have to put up with regular withdrawl just to make it 1,000 times harder.
I don't know much about recreational use but as far as medical use goes, if you are depressed or something else psychological and your doctor goes to prescribe something straight away; get a second opinion, then a third. Get some cognitive behavioural therapy.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Yosefxp]
#7568519 - 10/28/07 01:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yosefxp said: Yeah well anti-depressants are a poor way to get rid of behaviour as they only hide the symptoms...it's a fact in the scientific community. Even anti-psychotics should be avoided.
"A fact in the scientific community"? I thought drugs were considered to be innovations and are widely used...
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JunkFood]
#7568619 - 10/28/07 02:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah but so were frontal lobotomies lol...but seriously if you ask the pharmaceutical companies; even they will agree that their products do not sure these illnesses, they just alleviate the symptoms temporarily.
This would normally be ok but they are being overprescribed, especially to kids. I mean when you are advertising drugs like ritalin on TV to parents, that's not really cool. It's up to the doctors to decide and they've done studies that show that if parents even mention ritalin to their doctors the doctors are much more likely to prescribe it in the end. Even to exactly the same kid.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
#7569223 - 10/28/07 09:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I tried Zoloft just for the hell of it once, but stopped after 3 months of severe diarrhea. One interesting thing is that it felt like I was on a mild ecstasy buzz everyday. It makes sense due to how SSRIs work, but it was obvious the stop was fucking up my body.
Kanna is a potent SSRI. It is legal and natural (although I don't believe natural is always safer or better). I have some growing but haven't tried it yet. Clickity click: http://www.erowid.org/plants/kanna/
St. John's Wort isn't worth it IMO. It makes me and everyone I know who tried it numb. Lacking emotions. It's not a negative feeling, but it's not positive. Also, it only seemed to work when I upped the dose to 25-30pills a day. I drink St. John's Wort tea every once in awhile because the aroma is fantastic.
I believe depression to just be a problem with the way one perceives the world. I do believe in chemical imbalances, but I don't believe that 60% of Americans have a chemical imbalance. A few people might, but the majority of people who are depressed or don't enjoy anything just have incorrect or utopian views of life. This is just my opinion from my own ~decade of depression and experiments and experience with different methods: pharmaceutical, OTC, illicit and spiritual.
Pharmaceuticals are a nice quick solution to the problem, but don't dependent on them for the long run. Maybe doctors believe that these drugs will help you get a good job and get married and by then your views of life would have been changed so radically that you will no longer need the stuff.
Anyway, make your own decisions, but keep in mind that you might be damaging your brain if you use these drugs for a prolonged period.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Quake3]
#7569266 - 10/28/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JunkFood]
#7569373 - 10/28/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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JunkFood said:
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justin_thyme said: *and to junkfood, st. john's wort is an SSRI
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St. John's Wort is an herb. SSRIs are
Zoloft Celexa Paxil Luvox
Designer pharmaceutical drugs 
"St. John's Wort is an SSRI" 
it inhibits the reuptake of 5-HT serotonin receptors.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Quake3]
#7569479 - 10/28/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd like to hear how Kanna is.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Limerick]
#7569592 - 10/28/07 01:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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reind of mine was on a whole gamet of ssri's ---> ;pantsfase:
he used to get uber fucked up on weed when he started smoking. seeing people and shit
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JunkFood]
#7569599 - 10/28/07 01:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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JunkFood said:
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justin_thyme said: *and to junkfood, st. john's wort is an SSRI
St. John's Wort is an herb. SSRIs are
Zoloft Celexa Paxil Luvox
Designer pharmaceutical drugs 
"St. John's Wort is an SSRI" 
lol yeah bthat was pretty funny.
i actualy had totrip a huge patch of st.johns wart the other day.
my mom tryed it once and she had a severe allergic reaction to it
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
#7569605 - 10/28/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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it inhibits the reuptake of 5-HT serotonin receptors.
Let me just point out that the receptors don't reuptake anything. Reuptake is when the neurotransmitters (like serotonin) get released into the synaptic gap from the presynaptic neuron. While sitting in the synaptic gap some will get absorbed by the appropriate receptor sites on the post synaptic neuron and the ones not used get absorbed back into the there synaptic vesicles (In the presynaptic neuron) waiting to be reused until they are absorbed. Now SSRI's (specific serotonin reuptake inhibitors) stop them from being pushed back into the synaptic vesicles. This means if they cant be reused they just sit in the synaptic gap giving the receptors more time to absorb them all. The receptor sites work the same while on or off ssri's.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
#7569891 - 10/28/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lexapro with weed was amazing when I was on the stuff. I ended up blazing all day everyday on that stuff... it seriously did feel like a mild roll. I took 5mg everyday until I realized I had no need for the stuff, it calmed me a lot but to the point where I was happy doing nothing but smoking weed and playing guitar hero all day long. I didn't even care whether or not I left my house. That stuff is pretty strong, it significantly alters your behaviour. It kinda creeped me out.
In my case the Lexapro affected my behaviour in a way I did not like, therefore I stopped regardless of what my doctor suggested.
When I first started taking Lexapro it felt like I was rolling mildy 24/7 and naturally weed just goes so well with this. But to me the idea of feeling that way all the time made me seriously consider why I was doing this to myself. It's not natural by any means... I think it goes without saying that being drugged up all day everday on anything will lead to changes in your body's equilibrium and you will inevitably suffer consequences when you stop. This applies to pretty much every drug with psychoactive effects I can think of.
So it's not just SSRI's, or anything. It's the difference between "being medicated" and not having to worry versus actually taking responsibility for everything. It's my opinion that it is way too common for people these days to have crutches with drugs. It's so widespread it's not even funny- and I'm not saying this as being a good or bad thing, it's just how we function. Almost everyone I know uses at least some form of drug to help them cope with something. In the end though, there is a difference between giving up yourself so that you can live free of all worries, and leaning on something to make a situation more easier.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: today mylove]
#13154423 - 09/06/10 09:55 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey man, I've seen two of my friends turn into near-zombies on anti-depressants. Ones on Lexapro, he would smoke on that stuff and would either start freaking out and yelling things at everyone in the room, or just be walking around and totally unresponsive unless you grabbed him by the shoulders and asked him a question. The other friend is on Celexa, a lot of Celexa. The drug doesn't seem to do what it is supposed to do for my friend. Apparently smoking marijuana on that is like a shroom trip(?). Can anybody else testify to that? Anyway as far As I can tell, SSRIs are pretty powerful and even low doses can drastically change one's overall judgement of those around them and themselves. And yes, the American culture has become full of expediency, immediate gratification. Everybody just takes what they are given in life and doesn't question it. People completely and wholeheartedly believe everything they are presented with, and think that things like the news and popular culture have the TRUTH, when in all actuality, they only have what seems RIGHT because of the same "are you depressed? You're probably depressed" messages being battered into our skulls 24/7 on every TV Channel. the bullshit being broadcast to 300 million Americans (including pharmaceutical commercials, studies, and testing) is all sponsored, by the government! If not directly, then indirectly by pharmaceutical companies giving rewards to doctors who prescribe the most medication. So I digressed, and this thread is 1043 days old but I'm bringing it back so THERE! Please tell me if you have experience with celexa or Lexapro!
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Jordainio]
#13154537 - 09/06/10 10:32 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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In my case,i have/had anxiety and paranoia,mostly social phobia and tremors,my neck starts getting spasms and looking around calmly when people are around seems impossible.As if my eyeballs want to pop out of my head and go around to the backside and drill through my skull into my brain.But i guess in alot of ways it's my own fault and very tied to my outlook on life.But generally,ever since i took anti depressants i find it impossible to feel joy,or feel happyness,i'm so used to it that sometimes happy people piss me off.I just don't understand sudden outburts of happyness and talking things you don't really mean to someone you obviously might backstab only a few years later because you find out too much about him and he doesn't fit in to your personality list.Basically i'm healing myself now,and i've really had alot of progress,mostly on my outlook of life.But the biggest setback were the pills. I've taken anti-depressants,zoloft for 1 year and prozac for another.I absolutely find my brain damaged after those 2 courses and i would love to urinate on my psychiatrists face.As if i was some kind of income for the medicine industry,it's quite obvious in my opinion.Doctors know that most people are stressed and unhealthy due to they're lifestyle,which nobody feels like changing when locked into the ever degrading society. So they always look for an easy solution,hmm what might that be? a pill? why not.The only catch is that the problems that the pill is supposed to solve are in the side effects list,including 30 other.So the first pill will take you to the next,and so on.All anti depressants are a stairway to emotionless life,eventually they take you to psychosis and then you'll already want anti psychotics which pretty much exterminate your conciousness. It's the way of life,life keeps trying to sustain itself,survival of the fittest.Since we already have the big paradox of money,there are countless people obsessed with it and who will do anything to get it.And whoever falls victim of the ever power hungry companies is just unlucky,it's quite right what Timothy Leary said:"question authority and think for yourself"
As to answer the question hehe,i smoked loads of weed when on prozac,didn't feel any difference.In fact prozac didn't really make me feel anything at all.
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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Brainstain]
#13154565 - 09/06/10 10:43 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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hm...i remember this thread. i've been off the ssri's for 2.5 years now. looking back, this was pretty stupid
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