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wow...ssri's really potentiate weed
    #7566456 - 10/27/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

one bowl of middies and a small glass of wine with my lexapro and i was full blown tripping. body buzz was almost overwhelming, walls were pulsing back and forth to my music, and everything that moved left 2 foot tracers.

anyone else tried this?


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
    #7566526 - 10/27/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i will now. :smile:


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
    #7566838 - 10/27/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Tracers will be permanent if you keep taking that shit. I was on lexapro for like a year and now im stuck with them, maybe I can sue... haha


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Deity208]
    #7566840 - 10/27/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ur sensory memory got fuked up


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
    #7567499 - 10/27/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lexapros make my pupils fucking huge. I never tripped on them, though. I don't take them every day, though.


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Limerick]
    #7567519 - 10/27/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

SSRI's damage your brain in the long run, don't be a fool, drop the shit. some natural/healthier supplements i would recommend -

deprenyl
ashwagandha
bacopa
rhodiola rosea
siberian ginseng
american ginseng
whole food b vitamins (not synthetic)
whole food vitamin c (not synthetic)
gotu kola
l-theanine
organic super foods

taken together they synergize and beat the shit out of ssri's in terms of long-term health.


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: StagnantMind]
    #7567567 - 10/27/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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SSRI's damage your brain in the long run, don't be a fool, drop the shit.




Just out of curiosity, do you know any sources at the top of your head that would support this?

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just interested.


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: MorphMan] * 1
    #7567698 - 10/27/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: StagnantMind]
    #7567720 - 10/27/07 07:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wow, that's a lot of sources, thanks dude. You didn't have to give that many, but that works. I've always been against SSRI's because I figured they were dangerous. What really freaks me out is the "brain zaps" that some people experience when discontinuing use. I'm gonna read up on that stuff though, peace out man.


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: MorphMan]
    #7567799 - 10/27/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

^I've gotten brain zaps once when I stopped taking Lexapro. They're horrible. Makes you wonder what the hell that drug is doing to you.


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: StagnantMind]
    #7567821 - 10/27/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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StagnantMind said:
SSRI's damage your brain in the long run, don't be a fool, drop the shit. some natural/healthier supplements i would recommend -

deprenyl
ashwagandha
bacopa
rhodiola rosea
siberian ginseng
american ginseng
whole food b vitamins (not synthetic)
whole food vitamin c (not synthetic)
gotu kola
l-theanine
organic super foods

taken together they synergize and beat the shit out of ssri's in terms of long-term health.




Also: 70% of German physicians prefer St. John's Wort over SSRIs; and there's L-Tryptophan (naturally contained in many foods, most famously, turkey), which literally converts to serotonin in your brain (according to this post on Bluelight, it takes a day, though. I dunno.)

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whole food vitamin c (not synthetic)




Actually, Ester C is the best vitamin C. It's the newest discovered form of vitamin C; it enters the bloodstream twice as fast, penetrates cell walls more efficiently, and is held in the body twice as long as regular vitamin C.

Joan Mathews Larson, Ph.D., Depression-Free, Naturally


Edited by JunkFood (10/27/07 08:12 PM)


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JunkFood]
    #7568069 - 10/27/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i totally agree about them being dangerous. i was precribed them about a month ago when trying to get some xanax and wasn't going to take them, but i had a serious breakdown last week and decided to give it a shot.

it's worked wonders for my anxiety/depression so far, but i don't plan to take it more than a few months if i can.

*and to junkfood, st. john's wort is an SSRI


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Ness1]
    #7568076 - 10/27/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

im not defending antidepressants, but come on... your so called "brain zaps" are going to happen when you discontinue many types of drugs... its called withdrawal.


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
    #7568484 - 10/28/07 12:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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*and to junkfood, st. john's wort is an SSRI




:what: St. John's Wort is an herb. SSRIs are

Zoloft
Celexa
Paxil
Luvox

Designer pharmaceutical drugs :eek:

"St. John's Wort is an SSRI" :lol:



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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JunkFood] * 1
    #7568510 - 10/28/07 01:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah well anti-depressants are a poor way to get rid of behaviour as they only hide the symptoms...it's a fact in the scientific community. Even anti-psychotics should be avoided.

If you have a behavioural problem, you have to fix the behaviour. Not cover it up with drugs. I mean sure, in extreme cases where self harm or something like that is happening then they might be justified but only then.

Then when you stop taking the drugs the symptoms come right back but on top of that you have to put up with regular withdrawl just to make it 1,000 times harder.

I don't know much about recreational use but as far as medical use goes, if you are depressed or something else psychological and your doctor goes to prescribe something straight away; get a second opinion, then a third. Get some cognitive behavioural therapy.


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Yosefxp]
    #7568519 - 10/28/07 01:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah well anti-depressants are a poor way to get rid of behaviour as they only hide the symptoms...it's a fact in the scientific community. Even anti-psychotics should be avoided.




"A fact in the scientific community"? I thought drugs were considered to be innovations and are widely used...


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JunkFood]
    #7568619 - 10/28/07 02:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah but so were frontal lobotomies lol...but seriously if you ask the pharmaceutical companies; even they will agree that their products do not sure these illnesses, they just alleviate the symptoms temporarily.

This would normally be ok but they are being overprescribed, especially to kids. I mean when you are advertising drugs like ritalin on TV to parents, that's not really cool. It's up to the doctors to decide and they've done studies that show that if parents even mention ritalin to their doctors the doctors are much more likely to prescribe it in the end. Even to exactly the same kid.


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JT]
    #7569223 - 10/28/07 09:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I tried Zoloft just for the hell of it once, but stopped after 3 months of severe diarrhea. One interesting thing is that it felt like I was on a mild ecstasy buzz everyday. It makes sense due to how SSRIs work, but it was obvious the stop was fucking up my body.

Kanna is a potent SSRI. It is legal and natural (although I don't believe natural is always safer or better). I have some growing but haven't tried it yet. Clickity click: http://www.erowid.org/plants/kanna/

St. John's Wort isn't worth it IMO. It makes me and everyone I know who tried it numb. Lacking emotions. It's not a negative feeling, but it's not positive. Also, it only seemed to work when I upped the dose to 25-30pills a day. I drink St. John's Wort tea every once in awhile because the aroma is fantastic.

I believe depression to just be a problem with the way one perceives the world. I do believe in chemical imbalances, but I don't believe that 60% of Americans have a chemical imbalance. A few people might, but the majority of people who are depressed or don't enjoy anything just have incorrect or utopian views of life. This is just my opinion from my own ~decade of depression and experiments and experience with different methods: pharmaceutical, OTC, illicit and spiritual.

Pharmaceuticals are a nice quick solution to the problem, but don't dependent on them for the long run. Maybe doctors believe that these drugs will help you get a good job and get married and by then your views of life would have been changed so radically that you will no longer need the stuff.

Anyway, make your own decisions, but keep in mind that you might be damaging your brain if you use these drugs for a prolonged period.


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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: Quake3]
    #7569266 - 10/28/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: wow...ssri's really potentiate weed [Re: JunkFood]
    #7569373 - 10/28/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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*and to junkfood, st. john's wort is an SSRI




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:what: St. John's Wort is an herb. SSRIs are

Zoloft
Celexa
Paxil
Luvox

Designer pharmaceutical drugs :eek:

"St. John's Wort is an SSRI" :lol:




it inhibits the reuptake of 5-HT serotonin receptors.






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