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HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH
#7566156 - 10/27/07 09:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.ttc.org/200710251642.l9pggf222741.htm
THE HAGUE, Oct 25, 2007 (AFP) - The Amsterdam prosecutor's office called for a four-month prison sentence on Thursday for a Frenchman who killed and cut up his dog after eating hallucinatory magic mushrooms. Jeremy Venzin, 29, "ate hallucinogenic mushrooms and smoked cannabis nearly every day in the two weeks prior to the incident," according to a psychiatric study. Police found Venzin in his van on July 13, his motionless nude body covered in the blood of his furry companion. The vehicle was parked along one of the canals in the centre of the Dutch city. He had slit the dog's throat and then skinned it before cutting it open to pull out the organs. He told police officers that he had killed the dog to liberate it from the demons that were living inside it and that the end of the world was near. During testimony Venzin denied he had made those statements. Judgement is expected on November 8.
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7566160 - 10/27/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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And they wonder why we changed the name to Freedom fries.
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7566239 - 10/27/07 10:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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He ate magic mushrooms nearly every day two weeks prior to the incident? They can't possibly blame the mushrooms then, the tolerance his body would have built up would have ensured that they wouldn't have an effect.
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: Cyric]
#7566397 - 10/27/07 10:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think eating mushrooms everyday for two weeks would fuck you up pretty good. Sounds pretty weird though, like maybe he wasn't playing with a full deck before the drugs were even ingested.
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7566470 - 10/27/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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so it's against the law to eat your dog?
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: rexmundi]
#7566483 - 10/27/07 11:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
rexmundi said: I think eating mushrooms everyday for two weeks would fuck you up pretty good. Sounds pretty weird though, like maybe he wasn't playing with a full deck before the drugs were even ingested.
unless your eating oucnes at a time by the 4th or 5th day, nothing would even effect you. your body builds up a tolerance and it usually lasts about a week before the effect is back to normal. i think this article was claiming he smoked cannabis everyday, but also took mushrooms once during that time. it just sounds confusing and misleading due to the wording but thats what they want anyways.
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: Arp]
#7566528 - 10/27/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Arp said: so it's against the law to eat your dog?
That's what I was thinking.... if he cut it's throat first it wouldn't have been any more painful a death than a wild animal would cause, and if he ate it... I guess I don't really see anything wrong here, other than it was his pet
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: ApJunkie]
#7566638 - 10/27/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like he had some emotional problems. Maybe a bad childhood experience with dogs .
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: gcdc14]
#7566744 - 10/27/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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nowhere in the story does it say that he tried to eat the dog. he just killed and ripped out it's intestines, cannibal corpse style.
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7566921 - 10/27/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: paradox_]
#7567060 - 10/27/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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mushrooms rule still IMFO
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: noobballer]
#7567153 - 10/27/07 04:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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noobballer said: mushrooms rule still IMFO
in your fucking opinion?
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: Lion]
#7567168 - 10/27/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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AWWWWW,I understand now,Micheal vick must have been eating mushrooms.
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: CptnGarden]
#7567528 - 10/27/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
CptnGarden said: unless your eating oucnes at a time by the 4th or 5th day, nothing would even effect you. your body builds up a tolerance and it usually lasts about a week before the effect is back to normal. i think this article was claiming he smoked cannabis everyday, but also took mushrooms once during that time. it just sounds confusing and misleading due to the wording but thats what they want anyways.
I know how psilocybin tolerance works, I still think two solid weeks of dosing oneself would get you really fucked up. Sleep deprivation and all that. But yeah, I think it means he smoked cannabis every day for two weeks and then took mushrooms.
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: rexmundi]
#7571799 - 10/29/07 03:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had a friend who dosed mushrooms daily for two weeks, smoked cannabis habitually (countless times daily), and drank a bit on top of that.... His condition was indistinguishable from that of a schizophrenic. He was delusional and extremely paranoid. It was quite frightening.
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: CureCat]
#7572419 - 10/29/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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he was trying to rid the dog of its demons.
sheeesh people
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: CureCat]
#7579196 - 10/31/07 01:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
CptnGarden said:
unless your eating oucnes at a time by the 4th or 5th day, nothing would even effect you. your body builds up a tolerance and it usually lasts about a week before the effect is back to normal.
I'm guessing you have no idea really. I'm guessing you've never tried. Because I certainly disagree from personal experience. ounces by the 4th or 5th day?? you're way, way, way off.
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CureCat said: I had a friend who dosed mushrooms daily for two weeks, smoked cannabis habitually (countless times daily), and drank a bit on top of that.... His condition was indistinguishable from that of a schizophrenic. He was delusional and extremely paranoid. It was quite frightening.
This actually sounds much closer to the truth in my personal experience.
In order to kill his dog, it must have been bad. I've seen people in this condition numerous times and I have no trouble believing it. It's just sad it got that far, somebody should have stepped in prior...
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: paradox_]
#7581478 - 10/31/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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He told police officers that he had killed the dog to liberate it from the demons that were living inside it
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: 2FiNiTe]
#7581509 - 10/31/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought this same story was revealed to be bullshit months ago; the guy was a diagnosed violent schizophrenic and he was not on mushrooms at the time.
Or maybe that was a dream I had or something
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#7581666 - 10/31/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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What do you mean? You have no tarté tatin? Fucking useless dog! You shall become tarté chein!
Mais oui, chaque indigène sait que le chien va bien avec le pâté en croûte heureux de champignon.
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Re: HALLUCINATING FRENCHMAN STABS HIS DOG TO DEATH [Re: Visionary Tools]
#7583095 - 11/01/07 07:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey take that shit outside
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