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why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms?
#7565973 - 10/27/07 07:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've come across a few posts about high dosages where people say 14 grams and above is disrespecting the mushrooms. What is the reasoning behind it?
Say 5 grams of dried cubes is equivalent to a 200-500 mic acid trip. So 14 grams is something like a 1500 mic acid trip. That is a pretty massive dose of LSD but no one would say it's disrespecting LSD by doing it. Why are mushrooms different?
Is there a historical basis for it? But shamen must have done huges doses since the dawn of time. Or is the effect of a huge dose different to a huge dose of LSD? I've read warnings like "you'll pass out and wake up in a pool of your own excrement with no memory of the last 4 hours". I think that's an exaggeration, at least for 14 grams - the most I've ever done. Of course it was incredibly strong and had a lot of horrible bad trip delusions and I did feel a bit nauseous at times but didn't vomit, pass out or lose control or my bowls. My memory of the trip was pretty good and it had some very enjoyable lucid moments.
I'm interested to hear a reason for the double standard compared to acid.
Edited by roquet (10/27/07 07:40 AM)
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: roquet]
#7565978 - 10/27/07 07:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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don't listen to the hippies.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: roquet]
#7565996 - 10/27/07 07:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i dont think theres anything wrong with it. depends on the person and the way it effects them.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Locus]
#7566005 - 10/27/07 07:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Locus said: i dont think theres anything wrong with it. depends on the person and the way it effects them.
Different strokes for different folks...if you can handle the shredding that 14 grams would provide.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: MOTH]
#7566043 - 10/27/07 08:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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its probably hippies saying that shit because lsd is man made and mushrooms arent. so they may think that abusing something man made is somewhat more "ok" than abusing a naturally occuring substance.
im just saying, that could be why they think what they say that. i dont personally think that. i say, dose at your own risk.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Mr_DeeMsTer]
#7566073 - 10/27/07 08:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: GbBaker]
#7566223 - 10/27/07 09:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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no its dissrespectful to them b/c it puts them down cuz they no they cant handle it take those 14 grams like a champ ill applaud
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Coaster]
#7566355 - 10/27/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I ate 14 grams one time. Holy GOD DAMN! is all I can say. This was with a buddy who ate 14 also. We had split an ounce. Have Fun and be safe, we started with no sitter and ended up with 2, lol.
Its all about your mind at the time you dose, I've had what some might call a bad trip off 1.5 grams, yet i have dosed higher than that hundreds of times.
I haven't used LSD a whole lot, nothing compared to how much I have used mushies, but I would say it is very hard/impossible to compare psilocin to mics of LSD. They are both psychedelics so comparing there strength to one another isn't possible.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Ransford]
#7566362 - 10/27/07 10:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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we started with no sitter and ended up with 2, lol.
lol. I can certainly see that happening.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: maggotz]
#7566367 - 10/27/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Ransford]
#7566460 - 10/27/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ransford said: I ate 14 grams one time. Holy GOD DAMN! is all I can say. This was with a buddy who ate 14 also. We had split an ounce. Have Fun and be safe, we started with no sitter and ended up with 2, lol.
Its all about your mind at the time you dose, I've had what some might call a bad trip off 1.5 grams, yet i have dosed higher than that hundreds of times.
I haven't used LSD a whole lot, nothing compared to how much I have used mushies, but I would say it is very hard/impossible to compare psilocin to mics of LSD. They are both psychedelics so comparing there strength to one another isn't possible.
im not catching the logic that since they are both psychedelics that comparing their strength is impossible
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: roquet]
#7566475 - 10/27/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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roquet said: I've come across a few posts about high dosages where people say 14 grams and above is disrespecting the mushrooms. What is the reasoning behind it?
Say 5 grams of dried cubes is equivalent to a 200-500 mic acid trip. So 14 grams is something like a 1500 mic acid trip. That is a pretty massive dose of LSD but no one would say it's disrespecting LSD by doing it. Why are mushrooms different?
Is there a historical basis for it? But shamen must have done huges doses since the dawn of time. Or is the effect of a huge dose different to a huge dose of LSD? I've read warnings like "you'll pass out and wake up in a pool of your own excrement with no memory of the last 4 hours". I think that's an exaggeration, at least for 14 grams - the most I've ever done. Of course it was incredibly strong and had a lot of horrible bad trip delusions and I did feel a bit nauseous at times but didn't vomit, pass out or lose control or my bowls. My memory of the trip was pretty good and it had some very enjoyable lucid moments.
I'm interested to hear a reason for the double standard compared to acid.
I hear you. I dont see how people can even begin to say that knowing how relative the potency of shrooms can be. In the past, with some B+ grown on BRF, I had to take 13 grams just to get the effects of a 5 gram dose from mother nature. So where is the objective line drawn that says you are "disrespecting" the shrooms.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Nalim]
#7566485 - 10/27/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damn I can't imagine 14 grams. Most I've done is an eighth (3.5 grams) and that made me realize that we're tripping because what's in the shrooms is there poison. It made my face feel ugly and weird and I was feeling a bit nauseous for a few minutes. It made everything confusing and hard to understand. Maybe I just can't handle it or didn't have a good set/setting, but the way it made my BODY feel wasn't fun at all. I hate that feeling my face has while on them, where it feels almost droopy or something.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Polyrhythmanaut]
#7566499 - 10/27/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Say there was a constant potency with the mushrooms, and you do eat a 14g dose that fucks your brain in half. Awesome, fuck people that are talking disrespecting shit, mushrooms would be impressed that you could eat that many of them without being wrong in the head, or already on too many mushrooms. The only thing that you owe them is thanking that they're around for us to consume and have an amazing time with, Who/Whatever is responsible for that is in charge of being owed respect.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Hix]
#7566511 - 10/27/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think it's disrespecting, I think it's more about underestimating them.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Psilocin Dreams]
#7566518 - 10/27/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think it is a matter of people thinking 14 grams is just abusing the drug. Because in all reality you only need like 1 or so grams to trip, so why push it to that extent?
Although I don't think it is disrespectful at all, in fact if anyone can remember anything to talk about after their 14 gram trip, I would love to hear the stories.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: MindGorilla]
#7566550 - 10/27/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i simply see no reason in eating 14 grams of mushrooms if you're disrespecting anything, doing that, it'd be yourself
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: MindGorilla]
#7566565 - 10/27/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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MindGorilla said: I think it is a matter of people thinking 14 grams is just abusing the drug. Because in all reality you only need like 1 or so grams to trip, so why push it to that extent?
Although I don't think it is disrespectful at all, in fact if anyone can remember anything to talk about after their 14 gram trip, I would love to hear the stories.
Well lets not forget that everybody has a unique tolerance to this drug. You may get strong effects from "like 1 or so grams" but that is definitely not the case for everyone. And a lot of people are able to bring back information from high doses and can see the merit in risking ones sanity for the experience.
Im willing to bet that anyone with a clear intent to ingest as many grams as it takes to achieve a deep psychedelic experience will be well aware of the risks involved. Thats what i think anyway. cheers.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Nalim]
#7566602 - 10/27/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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maggotz said: don't listen to the hippies.
 14 grams is a good time to be sure.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: roquet]
#7566650 - 10/27/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Regardless of how much you take, you're disregarding your own physical and mental wellbeing rather than disrespecting mushrooms. So long as you're not doing harm to yourself or other people around you, what you are doing cannot be categorised as abuse.
Some people need higher doses to get effects that others feel from minimal amounts of Psilocybin (or other psychedelics, for that matter). With the right preparation, a positive mind set, and a good location for tripping in, high doses can induce life changing spiritual experiences. Then again, so can low doses in the same situations.
So long as you do your research, accept what you are capable of, and enter psychedelic experiences with intelligence and respect, it is possible for an experience to be positive regardless of the dose.
With regard to this question, I'm reminded of the process of "thumb printing". If highly intelligent, self-aware and spiritual people with huge amounts of experience with LSD can gain positive insights from taking hundreds, or even thousands of times a regular dose (and, according to Robert Hunter, they can indeed), then it stands to reason that any dosage of mushrooms can also be a positive thing.
There is no cut off point here. Telling other people that what they are doing is wrong and abusive, based on an arbitrary number of grams is just plain redundant. As I said before, unless someone is hurting themselves or others, what they are doing is not abuse.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7566769 - 10/27/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Like it's already been said...just do what you think is okay.
If you feel you can control and handle yourself, then rock on.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: BirdsIView]
#7566843 - 10/27/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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BirdsIView said: Damn I can't imagine 14 grams. Most I've done is an eighth (3.5 grams) and that made me realize that we're tripping because what's in the shrooms is there poison.
Poison?
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: opensaysme]
#7566851 - 10/27/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im beginning to believe that anyone who has ever said that on this website is a puppet of the same person.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: opensaysme]
#7566874 - 10/27/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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opensaysme said:
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BirdsIView said: Damn I can't imagine 14 grams. Most I've done is an eighth (3.5 grams) and that made me realize that we're tripping because what's in the shrooms is there poison.
Poison?
lol...
The thought of "disrespecting" an inanimate object is ridiculous.. if you can handle it, then why not?
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Acyl]
#7567020 - 10/27/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Acyl said: Im beginning to believe that anyone who has ever said that on this website is a puppet of the same person.
seriously.
what an idiot.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7567067 - 10/27/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Great Post, Superfly!
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7567331 - 10/27/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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heroic dose!
i see no problem in doing such high doses, but i think the people should be prepared for it. i have an odd attitude towards mushrooms because i have always had very emotional experiences on them, but i see at as a frontier to explore,not hold back from.
i'd like to do an oz. one day, and if i ever get there i know my life wont be the same again. but its all about you, if you can take it, and WANT to take it, then im all for it.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7567419 - 10/27/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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EllisDSox said:There is no cut off point here. Telling other people that what they are doing is wrong and abusive, based on an arbitrary number of grams is just plain redundant. As I said before, unless someone is hurting themselves or others, what they are doing is not abuse.
Indeed, it is all perspective. High dose mushroom trips for me have proven to be very insightful and rewarding. Just keep an open mind and don't project any beliefs onto the experience. Such projection can alter the trip in any way as the mind is magnified during such experiences.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: opensaysme]
#7568257 - 10/27/07 10:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Poison?
I've got the poison. I've got the remedy. I've got the pulsing, arhythmical remedy.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: AnotherDimension]
#7568341 - 10/27/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think this subject is old and tired.
You are not disrespecting mushrooms if you take 14 grams+
You may just be disrespecting yourself though.
14 grams and above just seems really silly to me. Then again, I have taken 1700 mics of lsd, and 12 grams of cubes. No thumb prints for me please..........lol
I respect my mind far more than I respect some chemical.
And ya, I find that the people who take the largest doses are basically mildly retarded and very uninteresting people. What do those people have to say about their trips? Nothing really. They are pretty sure they tripped balls and saw some really fucking intense visuals. The dumbest people I know are all polar opposites. They can either take a shit ton of mushrooms, or cant handle more than 2 grams. They are all dumbasses though. Thats just my experience, so dont shit on me for a simple observation.
Im not so sure when people will realize that your dose does not reflect your "psychedelic learning capability".
If you cant see visuals on 3.5 grams, then take more I guess. Its pretty weird that some people for example, see fat visuals on one gram, and others just have a few laughs and are somehow let down by the experience.
Is it logical to think that those who take 12+ grams are more ready for the experience? OR IS it that they cant really get to the same place as the lower dosers do unless they take a fucking massive dose of cubes.
You decide which state of mind is more attuned to the mushroom. To see less or see more? That is the question.
That guy who takes 2-3 grams every time is more interesting than the simple dumbass who takes 5+ grams every time?
I personally prefer the 2 grams guy. Dont ask me why. I just think they are a whole lot smarter. Thats just my experience though.
The only high dosers I know that had a colorful personality and a depth to their character is me and my best friend and perhapse some of the people on this site.
In other words, high dosers tend to be dumbfucks in my experience. Im not going to tell you why that is even though its pretty obvious. Im just explaining why I am one of the people who have said that the highest dosers are the biggest and most funny jokes. I dont think they are disrespecting the mushroom. I just think they are fun-boys.
Maria sabina would get a kick out of this post if she spoke english and was still alive.
Edited by yageman (10/27/07 11:46 PM)
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: yageman]
#7568359 - 10/27/07 11:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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High dose, low dose, no dose, no choice.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: yageman]
#7568554 - 10/28/07 01:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yageman said: What do those people have to say about their trips? Nothing really. They are pretty sure they tripped balls and saw some really fucking intense visuals
Yep, I wholeheartedly agree; I have friends like that. That is like playing through a D&D campaign for years, with a lot of depth in that campaign, and one of my players merely saying "yeah it was cool" and nothing else at the end/after the climax. Those kind of people can't play with me. And if they do, I make their character life hell, deservedly.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: yageman]
#7568618 - 10/28/07 02:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yageman said: 14 grams and above just seems really silly to me. Then again, I have taken 1700 mics of lsd, and 12 grams of cubes.
That's exactly my question - why is 1700 mics of lsd ok but not 14 grams of shrooms?
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yageman said: Maria sabina would get a kick out of this post if she spoke english and was still alive.
I bet she did 14 grams and a whole lot more. In the Gordon Wasson "Life" article he says she always took twice as much as everyone else. And there's the story of how when Leary and Hoffman gave her the usual psilocybin pill dose she couldn't feel a thing so they multiplied it by ten and then she said "yes it contains the spirit of the mushroom".
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: roquet]
#7568751 - 10/28/07 04:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I always find these claims hard to believe and wonder how much of it is just a measuring contest. Either that or some of you guys get really really shitty shrooms
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: sirino]
#7568788 - 10/28/07 04:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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sirino said: I always find these claims hard to believe and wonder how much of it is just a measuring contest. Either that or some of you guys get really really shitty shrooms
you don't believe anyone's ever done 14 grams of potent mushrooms?
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: roquet]
#7568935 - 10/28/07 06:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm sure its been done, many a time, probably by a good few people on this message board too.
The most I've ever eaten in one sitting was a quarter ounce of really great mushrooms. I found it to be surprisingly easy for me to handle, compared to some tough trips i've had in the 4-5gram range. Even though it was intense i didn't really have much to do about it, i just had to accept it.
My reality was shattered and then eventually built back up molecule by molecule until it became what it always was, except i had a new understanding of it.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: opensaysme]
#7569318 - 10/28/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's really all about where you want to go. I usually don't trip on less than6 grams dried. But I don't trip very often, and when I do I make sure everything is perfect. Because it is so intense and introspective. My roomates all think i'm crazy because to them it is a good time drug, they usually eat an eigth or less. When I trip I wanna lose myself, and my ego not just giggle at the carpet.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: headofmike]
#7569394 - 10/28/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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headofmike said: It's really all about where you want to go. I usually don't trip on less than6 grams dried. But I don't trip very often, and when I do I make sure everything is perfect. Because it is so intense and introspective. My roomates all think i'm crazy because to them it is a good time drug, they usually eat an eigth or less. When I trip I wanna lose myself, and my ego not just giggle at the carpet.
I think this is the point, if you need that much to lose your self then go ahead, why should I give a fuck.
But I never need more than an eighth, and have never taken more than that. I can get anything I want on that much. Most of my trips are around half that, and they have all been great, if I want visuals I just look, if I want to lose myself I close my eyes or lay down.
I think it comes down to this, stop worrying about what some dude says about your dose in an attempt to force his ridiculous (doesn't matter if they are or aren't) set of beliefs on everyone else. Who the fuck cares.
And yes this is an old and tired discussion. And I haven't heard anyone come in here and start yelling about mushroom spirits and disrespecting the gods (at least then it could be fun) so if those people aren't going to show up whats the point? I know, but I don't feel like pissing people off by saying it...
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7569878 - 10/28/07 02:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's like disrespecting the ocean,when you go deep you disrespect it because you underestimated it and your not afraid of it,same with shrooms.According to hippies of course.
Also 14 grams is massive.It's not dangerous on my system just heavy.Major headaches afterwards and then you get the worst hangover..
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: NEPHROSIS]
#7572885 - 10/29/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Taking more than 7 grams is just a waste... the effects don't get stronger but it will make your stomach hurt like a bitch.
Save your mushrooms. don't be an idiot. less is more as you will find out.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: dfslkfsd]
#7573793 - 10/29/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry, but the effects certainly do get stronger after seven grams.
I'm positive that if you eat a half ounce you will trip a lot harder than if you eat a quarter. Yea you will have more stomach discomfort as well but the trip will be a lot more intense.
You might black out once you start getting into real big doses if your head isn't ready for it though.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: opensaysme]
#7575442 - 10/30/07 05:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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opensaysme said: Sorry, but the effects certainly do get stronger after seven grams.
I'm positive that if you eat a half ounce you will trip a lot harder than if you eat a quarter.
in some ways it is wasteful because although 14 grams *is* more intense than 7-8 grams it's not *massively* so, considering it's double the dose. On the other hand, if you grown your own it's easy to grown more than you can get through before they start degrading, in which case "waste" isn't an issue.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: roquet]
#7575531 - 10/30/07 06:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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quote] in some ways it is wasteful because although 14 grams *is* more intense than 7-8 grams it's not *massively* so, considering it's double the dose. On the other hand, if you grown your own it's easy to grown more than you can get through before they start degrading, in which case "waste" isn't an issue.
If the issue is that you've got so many mushrooms laying around that you don't know what to do with them, there are certainly options:
- try novel ways of storing/extracting the good stuff - stealthily spread the mushrooms about your town in places they might grow well - find some less mycologically prosperous folks you can trust to share/ trade your mushrooms with
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: monkeyheaven]
#7576035 - 10/30/07 10:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think that taking 14+ grams of mushrooms is disrespecting anything. The potency of mushrooms vary so much from grow to grow. My last grow I had to 14 grams just to get a normal 7 gram trip. I usually take 7 grams and it is an intense trip but that is the way I like it. If I take less it just seems like I didn't trip. I have been trying to train myself though. I have been taking less and trying to meditate and train myself to feel the shroom better. But it isn't really working.
I just go by what Mckenna says. "The problem usually lies in the fact that people don't take enough mushrooms."
I don't think it went quite exactly like that but I don't feel like looking.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Psilocin Dreams]
#14843153 - 07/29/11 10:40 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psilocin Dreams said: I don't think it's disrespecting, I think it's more about underestimating them.
(Sorry for bringing up this very old thread, I only just looked at the date)
Edited by birdland (07/29/11 10:55 AM)
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: birdland]
#14843202 - 07/29/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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thats not disrespecting them. not eating them is disrespecting them in my eyes. also blaming them for bad trips is disrespectful not that they are sacred but im an animal and i like calories with nutrition. these just have fun stuff in them too. i say make a full meal out of them cook like 160 fresh grams up on the bbq with some sauce do it quick, like 15 min. or chop them and toss them in a salad.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: JilPil]
#14843207 - 07/29/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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A buddy of mine ate a half ounce at ounce and died and came back to life in his trip. He also pissed everywhere, couldn't talk, take like 50000 showers. HELLA FUNNY. But he's not the same since. :/
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: BirdsIView]
#14843605 - 07/29/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: headofmike]
#14843687 - 07/29/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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headofmike said: It's really all about where you want to go. I usually don't trip on less than6 grams dried. But I don't trip very often, and when I do I make sure everything is perfect. Because it is so intense and introspective. My roomates all think i'm crazy because to them it is a good time drug, they usually eat an eigth or less. When I trip I wanna lose myself, and my ego not just giggle at the carpet.
This is how I feel. I want to lose myself and experience something that changes my life. I don't want to do it because it's only going to be fun, if it turns out to be hell but my life improves because of it, then it was a "good" trip
how hard is it to find a shroom dealer in SoCal x.x
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: iggi]
#14843696 - 07/29/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its hard to die on shrooms, DMT and harmala extract is my trip of choice, and mushrooms have never treated me wrong as long as I take into account set and setting.
I'd never eat half an ounce at a festival or some shit. But I'd do it at home any day of the week. It just depends on if you are comfortable in your own head or not.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Joolz]
#14843731 - 07/29/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Joolz said: Its hard to die on shrooms, DMT and harmala extract is my trip of choice, and mushrooms have never treated me wrong as long as I take into account set and setting.
I'd never eat half an ounce at a festival or some shit. But I'd do it at home any day of the week. It just depends on if you are comfortable in your own head or not.
yeah i gotta do a shroom trip or something just to get my mind use to tripping again dmt is so fleeting that it just becomes a mystery so that pre flight anxiety is killing me but ill get there soon enough.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: JilPil]
#14843780 - 07/29/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd suggest a good, powerful mushroom trip for anyone interested in DMT. If you like the mushroom trip (visuals, introspection, mind fuck and all) then go for it. Smoke some dmt and see how it goes.
All you need to take psychedelics is the psychedelic itself, set and setting, and a good sense of comfort in your own head. If you don't feel comfortable in your own skin you probably won't have fun tripping.
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