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NEPHROSIS
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7566769 - 10/27/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Like it's already been said...just do what you think is okay.
If you feel you can control and handle yourself, then rock on.
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opensaysme
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: BirdsIView]
#7566843 - 10/27/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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BirdsIView said: Damn I can't imagine 14 grams. Most I've done is an eighth (3.5 grams) and that made me realize that we're tripping because what's in the shrooms is there poison.
Poison?
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Acyl
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: opensaysme]
#7566851 - 10/27/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im beginning to believe that anyone who has ever said that on this website is a puppet of the same person.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: opensaysme]
#7566874 - 10/27/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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opensaysme said:
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BirdsIView said: Damn I can't imagine 14 grams. Most I've done is an eighth (3.5 grams) and that made me realize that we're tripping because what's in the shrooms is there poison.
Poison?
lol...
The thought of "disrespecting" an inanimate object is ridiculous.. if you can handle it, then why not?
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usefulidiot13
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Acyl]
#7567020 - 10/27/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Acyl said: Im beginning to believe that anyone who has ever said that on this website is a puppet of the same person.
seriously.
what an idiot.
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Apollyphelion
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7567067 - 10/27/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Great Post, Superfly!
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7567331 - 10/27/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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heroic dose!
i see no problem in doing such high doses, but i think the people should be prepared for it. i have an odd attitude towards mushrooms because i have always had very emotional experiences on them, but i see at as a frontier to explore,not hold back from.
i'd like to do an oz. one day, and if i ever get there i know my life wont be the same again. but its all about you, if you can take it, and WANT to take it, then im all for it.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7567419 - 10/27/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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EllisDSox said:There is no cut off point here. Telling other people that what they are doing is wrong and abusive, based on an arbitrary number of grams is just plain redundant. As I said before, unless someone is hurting themselves or others, what they are doing is not abuse.
Indeed, it is all perspective. High dose mushroom trips for me have proven to be very insightful and rewarding. Just keep an open mind and don't project any beliefs onto the experience. Such projection can alter the trip in any way as the mind is magnified during such experiences.
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AnotherDimension
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: opensaysme]
#7568257 - 10/27/07 10:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Poison?
I've got the poison. I've got the remedy. I've got the pulsing, arhythmical remedy.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: AnotherDimension]
#7568341 - 10/27/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think this subject is old and tired.
You are not disrespecting mushrooms if you take 14 grams+
You may just be disrespecting yourself though.
14 grams and above just seems really silly to me. Then again, I have taken 1700 mics of lsd, and 12 grams of cubes. No thumb prints for me please..........lol
I respect my mind far more than I respect some chemical.
And ya, I find that the people who take the largest doses are basically mildly retarded and very uninteresting people. What do those people have to say about their trips? Nothing really. They are pretty sure they tripped balls and saw some really fucking intense visuals. The dumbest people I know are all polar opposites. They can either take a shit ton of mushrooms, or cant handle more than 2 grams. They are all dumbasses though. Thats just my experience, so dont shit on me for a simple observation.
Im not so sure when people will realize that your dose does not reflect your "psychedelic learning capability".
If you cant see visuals on 3.5 grams, then take more I guess. Its pretty weird that some people for example, see fat visuals on one gram, and others just have a few laughs and are somehow let down by the experience.
Is it logical to think that those who take 12+ grams are more ready for the experience? OR IS it that they cant really get to the same place as the lower dosers do unless they take a fucking massive dose of cubes.
You decide which state of mind is more attuned to the mushroom. To see less or see more? That is the question.
That guy who takes 2-3 grams every time is more interesting than the simple dumbass who takes 5+ grams every time?
I personally prefer the 2 grams guy. Dont ask me why. I just think they are a whole lot smarter. Thats just my experience though.
The only high dosers I know that had a colorful personality and a depth to their character is me and my best friend and perhapse some of the people on this site.
In other words, high dosers tend to be dumbfucks in my experience. Im not going to tell you why that is even though its pretty obvious. Im just explaining why I am one of the people who have said that the highest dosers are the biggest and most funny jokes. I dont think they are disrespecting the mushroom. I just think they are fun-boys.
Maria sabina would get a kick out of this post if she spoke english and was still alive.
Edited by yageman (10/27/07 11:46 PM)
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TripityDooDaDay
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: yageman]
#7568359 - 10/27/07 11:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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High dose, low dose, no dose, no choice.
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Apollyphelion
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: yageman]
#7568554 - 10/28/07 01:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yageman said: What do those people have to say about their trips? Nothing really. They are pretty sure they tripped balls and saw some really fucking intense visuals
Yep, I wholeheartedly agree; I have friends like that. That is like playing through a D&D campaign for years, with a lot of depth in that campaign, and one of my players merely saying "yeah it was cool" and nothing else at the end/after the climax. Those kind of people can't play with me. And if they do, I make their character life hell, deservedly.
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roquet
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: yageman]
#7568618 - 10/28/07 02:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yageman said: 14 grams and above just seems really silly to me. Then again, I have taken 1700 mics of lsd, and 12 grams of cubes.
That's exactly my question - why is 1700 mics of lsd ok but not 14 grams of shrooms?
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yageman said: Maria sabina would get a kick out of this post if she spoke english and was still alive.
I bet she did 14 grams and a whole lot more. In the Gordon Wasson "Life" article he says she always took twice as much as everyone else. And there's the story of how when Leary and Hoffman gave her the usual psilocybin pill dose she couldn't feel a thing so they multiplied it by ten and then she said "yes it contains the spirit of the mushroom".
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: roquet]
#7568751 - 10/28/07 04:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I always find these claims hard to believe and wonder how much of it is just a measuring contest. Either that or some of you guys get really really shitty shrooms
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roquet
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: sirino]
#7568788 - 10/28/07 04:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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sirino said: I always find these claims hard to believe and wonder how much of it is just a measuring contest. Either that or some of you guys get really really shitty shrooms
you don't believe anyone's ever done 14 grams of potent mushrooms?
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opensaysme
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: roquet]
#7568935 - 10/28/07 06:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm sure its been done, many a time, probably by a good few people on this message board too.
The most I've ever eaten in one sitting was a quarter ounce of really great mushrooms. I found it to be surprisingly easy for me to handle, compared to some tough trips i've had in the 4-5gram range. Even though it was intense i didn't really have much to do about it, i just had to accept it.
My reality was shattered and then eventually built back up molecule by molecule until it became what it always was, except i had a new understanding of it.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: opensaysme]
#7569318 - 10/28/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's really all about where you want to go. I usually don't trip on less than6 grams dried. But I don't trip very often, and when I do I make sure everything is perfect. Because it is so intense and introspective. My roomates all think i'm crazy because to them it is a good time drug, they usually eat an eigth or less. When I trip I wanna lose myself, and my ego not just giggle at the carpet.
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: headofmike]
#7569394 - 10/28/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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headofmike said: It's really all about where you want to go. I usually don't trip on less than6 grams dried. But I don't trip very often, and when I do I make sure everything is perfect. Because it is so intense and introspective. My roomates all think i'm crazy because to them it is a good time drug, they usually eat an eigth or less. When I trip I wanna lose myself, and my ego not just giggle at the carpet.
I think this is the point, if you need that much to lose your self then go ahead, why should I give a fuck.
But I never need more than an eighth, and have never taken more than that. I can get anything I want on that much. Most of my trips are around half that, and they have all been great, if I want visuals I just look, if I want to lose myself I close my eyes or lay down.
I think it comes down to this, stop worrying about what some dude says about your dose in an attempt to force his ridiculous (doesn't matter if they are or aren't) set of beliefs on everyone else. Who the fuck cares.
And yes this is an old and tired discussion. And I haven't heard anyone come in here and start yelling about mushroom spirits and disrespecting the gods (at least then it could be fun) so if those people aren't going to show up whats the point? I know, but I don't feel like pissing people off by saying it...
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7569878 - 10/28/07 02:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's like disrespecting the ocean,when you go deep you disrespect it because you underestimated it and your not afraid of it,same with shrooms.According to hippies of course.
Also 14 grams is massive.It's not dangerous on my system just heavy.Major headaches afterwards and then you get the worst hangover..
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Re: why is 14+ grams disrespecting the shrooms? [Re: NEPHROSIS]
#7572885 - 10/29/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Taking more than 7 grams is just a waste... the effects don't get stronger but it will make your stomach hurt like a bitch.
Save your mushrooms. don't be an idiot. less is more as you will find out.
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