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The N word
#7565855 - 10/27/07 05:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Great book, I'm almost done. As a non white, my friends who are also non whites and black use this word, A LOT. I never used it until I started hanging out with my best girlfriend. And it was always in a "kinship" sort of way - after reading that book, i will never use it again.
When Paul Mooney who made a living on the word, vowed to stop using it, and called for a moratorium, I knew I had to reevaluate my use of this slur.
Needles to say , my friend still uses it, and thinks im silly for giving power to a word. I am going to lend her this book. See if she still feels the same way. OoD
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druqs
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i am white, can i say it?
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Re: The N word [Re: druqs]
#7565877 - 10/27/07 05:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nigga, Plz!
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GoaM
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Of course you cant say nigger. I'm white too, and there are these magic words that only certain people can say. Like niggers (black) can say nigger, but only niggers (ignorent people) who aren't black would say nigger. LOLZ. It a word that has a lot of baggage.
Lot's of people say it amongst friends as a term of friendship, much like 'dude' or whathave you. Some out of malice. Whatever. I'm not PC and don't judge my friends by their language. But it's at least a cussword, and depending on the company may get you more shit than saying, 'cunt'.
Blacks I imagine associate it with oppression and injustice etc. Which is plobably why they are especially indignant about non-black use of the term. You know, the 'it's our word' argument.
I'd say rap brought it into the common, 'hey nigga' usage. It's the only racial slur used in that way. But whatever. Use it or don't. Be mindful of the company you use it in, or don't. It's just a word, but has alot of emotional baggage attached to it for alot of people.
Pz out niggaz,
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HEHEH! The 'nigger guy'. That was a great episode. LOLZ. Using 'nigger' and 'guy' within 7 words of each other was outlawed by congress.. but nigger wasn't. Gotta love SouthPark! LOLZ.
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Re: The N word [Re: GoaM]
#7565946 - 10/27/07 06:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I heard that Nas is releasing an album entitled "Nigger".
That should be interesting.
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Yeah, I do my best to not say things that I know will be taken as hurtful. There is a high likelihood with that particular word so I avoid it completely.
I see it's pretty popular around the Shroomery, though. Too bad.
Ahh well, I can only control my own words, not the words of others. I had to learn to deal with that fact a long time ago.
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I'm not racist at all. In fact, I've gotten in fights with skinheads just because they were racist, fascist, pieces of shit. Racism actually really pisses me off just thinking about it, as does any kind of discriminatory fascist mentality.
but that doesn't mean I can't say the N word. Its just a word. Whats important is the intentions behind the word. If I'm hanging out with my friends and I say, "Pass the blunt, nigga," thats a lot different than going up to a black person and saying: "You don't belong here, nigger."
What makes me angry is the amount of black people who get upset when they hear a white person say 'nigga' colloquially, when those same black people themselves use the word like a comma. I mean, for them to have one standard for themselves, and another standard for other races... well thats racist.
Notice I didn't use the term 'reverse racism' in the above example. Thats because racism is racism no matter who commits it against who. We don't need a special term for when white people are discriminated against by other races. 'Reverse racism' IS exactly what its supposed to mean. In other words, the term 'reverse racism' is in itself racist because it implies that only white people are normally racist and any exception to that rule needs to be noted with a special term.
nah, nigga. Plenty of black people are just as racist as whites. In fact, all races are racist against eachother. Racism is part of the human mentality, its not just a white problem.
Anyway, its the hatred of other cultures and races that needs to be abolished, not the use of certain words. And people need to be less hypocritical about racism if they really want it to end.
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BrandNoob said: Yeah, I do my best to not say things that I know will be taken as hurtful. There is a high likelihood with that particular word so I avoid it completely.
I see it's pretty popular around the Shroomery, though. Too bad.
Ahh well, I can only control my own words, not the words of others. I had to learn to deal with that fact a long time ago.
LOLZ! So is scat.
pz,
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Re: The N word [Re: GoaM]
#7566051 - 10/27/07 08:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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GoaM said: LOLZ! So is scat.
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But I love niggers.
Boss Nigger is one of the best blaxplotation movies btw
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I hate the N word, and I really dislike it being used regardless of the race of the person using it. You just can't turn it into a neutral or even positive thing. People are making up all sorts of bullshit about "what it means" but thats just nonsense. We all know what it means and no revisionism will take that meaning away.
I haven't read the book, but which points made in it have made you stop and think and abandon the word?
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Re: The N word [Re: Asante]
#7566099 - 10/27/07 08:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think thats way too simplified of an understanding.
Black culture itself has redefined the word.
For example: I'm a hip-hop fan. If I'm at work and there are black people present, and they are playing hip-hop music with the word 'nigga' in it, and everyone is rapping along with it, what am I supposed to do? Am I supposed to OMIT the word 'nigga' from my recitation? When all the black people are saying it?
I'm just trying to appreciate the culture that THEY created! WTF?
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Re: The N word [Re: GoaM]
#7566102 - 10/27/07 08:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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GoaM said:
Lot's of people say it amongst friends as a term of friendship, much like 'dude' or whathave you. Some out of malice. Whatever. I'm not PC and don't judge my friends by their language. But it's at least a cussword, and depending on the company may get you more shit than saying, 'cunt'.
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lol, who would put you in shit for saying cunt?
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Re: The N word [Re: druqs]
#7566167 - 10/27/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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some bitch that hasn't used hers yet?
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Re: The N word [Re: Asante]
#7566933 - 10/27/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I haven't read the book, but which points made in it have made you stop and think and abandon the word?
Not so much a point WS - but after reading about the etymology of the word, how it was used in politics and society as a shackle, as a wall to keep an entire swath of the population underfoot, made me ill. Its one thing to "know" a word is bad, it's another to read a historical outline of how it came to be,and how it was employed.
I love Mr Lif, (hes a rapper in case youve never heard of him) very conscious, very political, and he uses the term in his songs. When he uses it, he is illustrating how offensive it is . I have not heard him use it like "hey, whats up my nigga'? - He uses it as a curse, which of course it is.
In response to the person who said they wouldnt omit the word if it is in a song - well to that person I say, I dont have that problem, simply because I dont listen to music that uses it as a noun/ verb/adjective/curswword all in the same song. OoD
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Re: The N word [Re: Asante]
#7566947 - 10/27/07 02:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:You just can't turn it into a neutral or even positive thing.
Maybe you cant, but an open minded person could. Words dont have inherent meaning, they are defined solely by the people who use them. Also the definitions of all words are in constant flux and never remain static. To think otherwise is simply ignorance of how languages are made and propagated.
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Actually, all words have an inherent meaning. They're called definitions
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