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Asante
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Woodlover Seeds (spore vendors might like this!)
#7527882 - 10/17/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just now I got struck by a really weird idea. This happens to me on a day to day basis, but this time it's actually a useful idea
Woodlover seeds!
What you do is wet a piece of untreated cardboard with spore solution of a woodlover, for instance Psilocybe azurescens, and then you quickly dry it. After that, you shred the cardboard to small pieces.
Presto, woodlover seeds!
Someone buys a baggie of "woodlover seeds", mixes them with woodchips and lays a bed.
By the action of moisture the spores germinate and turn the pieces of shredded cardboard (a mycelium-selective substrate) into spawn, which in turn will spread to the woodchips.
These "woodlover seeds" could be shipped to any country that allows spores, and are as easy to use as ready-made spawn, allowing a gardener of limited skills to lay a bed of mushrooms.
Not just actives, but also edibles like Shiitake mushrooms come to mind.
What's your opinion?
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falcon
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Re: Woodlover Seeds (spore vendors might like this!) [Re: Asante]
#7528279 - 10/17/07 03:44 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like a fun project to play with to see if it work and under what conditions the spores would germinate. Unless the cardboard goes in with mycelium, I think it might be tough to get the woodlovers get going on fresh chips. I think there would be initially a bacterial bloom and then ascomyces bloom on the chips that would out inhibit the woodlover spores from germinating. IMO, the mycelium of the active woodlovers eats bacteria and ascomyces for breakfast, before it gets down to munchin wood later in the day.
So the my questions would be, What kind of chips would be best?, How old of chips would be best for the germination of spores?
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ThePyschonaut52
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Re: Woodlover Seeds (spore vendors might like this!) [Re: falcon]
#7528486 - 10/17/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think if this was done with spores from pyschoactive mushrooms, it might be viewed by the law as an intent to grow illegal shrooms...but with legal species, it could work!
Great idea!
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Cheezit
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Re: Woodlover Seeds (spore vendors might like this!) [Re: Asante]
#7540408 - 10/20/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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what about spores suspended in oil, in a geletin capsule. Or in a small glass vile. with a breakable neck. Sterilized then the capsule added, when ready to grow you break the vile and lightly mix into the substrate, used with bag cultivation.
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Re: Woodlover Seeds (spore vendors might like this!) [Re: Cheezit]
#7540726 - 10/20/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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so this would be like a brewers (as in beer brewing at home) yeast smack pack .. you would break the small package inside a larger package the contents mix and you have growth... cool idea .
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Cheezit
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Re: Woodlover Seeds (spore vendors might like this!) [Re: orchidfanatic]
#7542097 - 10/21/07 10:15 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol yeah exactly
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Re: Woodlover Seeds (spore vendors might like this!) [Re: Cheezit]
#7549841 - 10/23/07 02:22 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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So azures spores can germinate on cardboard?
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Re: Woodlover Seeds (spore vendors might like this!) [Re: budmanman]
#7552454 - 10/23/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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You really have nice ideas
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what about spores suspended in oil,
I think stamets had a patent to use spores in chainsaw oil
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in a geletin capsule. Or in a small glass vile. with a breakable neck.
I think to remember that mushmush make sclerotia jars with an "button" who release the spores.
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Re: Woodlover Seeds (spore vendors might like this!) *DELETED* [Re: Prankster239]
#7558345 - 10/25/07 08:38 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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falcon
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Re: Wood lover Seeds (spore vendors might like this!) [Re: armyabe]
#7563735 - 10/26/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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how about you just order spores and make your own spawn and make your own bed. whats wrong with that idea
Nothing wrong with that, but developing a technique that does not involve sterilization that starts from spores and gets some wood lovers growing would be so cool, because as far as I know no one's done it this way and it may not be possible. It's uncharted territory.
It is possible to get wood lovers growing using the PF tek, which cuts out the agar step. Teasing those spores into producing a viable culture on something that hasn't been heated... Hopefully someone at the shroomery will do it and write about it.
Edited by falcon (10/26/07 06:34 PM)
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Re: Wood lover Seeds (spore vendors might like this!) [Re: falcon]
#7564579 - 10/26/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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This technique is written up in Stamet's GGMM. He suggests using a five gallon bucket and add a touch of salt to the water to retard bacterial growth. When the mycelium starts to grow out from the spores/fruitbodies into the water, you dump it out into your woodchips. Allowing the spores to germinate in the bucket of water gives them a bit of head start over mixing directly into the soil. RR
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